I’d forgotten about that show. It seemed to get some mixed reviews - people seemed to either love or hate it.
I’ll give it a watch.
Which is why you should always watch these programmes and make up your own mind.
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Yes, watch every single show that comes out and make up your own mind.
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I don’t think it’s been mentioned here before, has anyone seen a recent TV show called Evil? Can anyone recommend it or dissuade me from watching it?
Finished The Acolyte, and I really don’t see where the hatred came from. It was absolutely fine, if not up to the standard of Andor or the first couple of Mando series, it was streets ahead of some of the other Star Wars stuff.
At best it gave an interesting view of The Force, and flaws in the Jedi’s self-appointed right to be its sole users, and their dogmatic view point leading to questionable moral compromises. This version of the Jedi Order had definitely gone stale and lost connection with what they were supposed to be. It lead’s nicely into setting up their failings in the Prequel Trilogy.
As for the backlash, what’s the problem? Is it because the twins are girls? Fucking grow up man babies.
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I really enjoyed the first season. It’s not as serious, but it has a bit of an X Files vibe to it, both in terms of having a central mythology they developed while dealing with monster of the week type episodes. It was levels above normal network tv, but from the second season they took it off the basic network and moved it onto the subscriber only streaming service so I didn’t bother with any of the rest. I read it just got cancelled though and so not sure what that means for a possible resolution to the central plot.
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I think in the Disney era, only Andor and Rogue One were better. It definitely had some production value issues and a couple of areas of questionable character/plot development, but it at least felt like a show produced because someone had a story to tell, and one that was recognizably star wars pulling on a thread lots of fans would have had thoughts about after the prequel trilogy. Pretty much everything else they have produced under Disney except for the two mentioned above felt like they were something that was backed into just because Disney needed SW content. Even the Mandalorian, which was the best of that bunch, doesnt feel like it really added anything to the Star Wars universe to me. It was enjoyable for what it was, but as substantial and memorable as candy floss. I haven’t yet got around to the third season, not because I didn’t like and so made a choice to avoid it, but because I didn’t enjoy the first two seasons enough to make a point of watching the third yet.
I’ve already given my thought on the very rapid criticisms of the show with earlier comments and nothing that happened in the later episodes really changes that and honestly just showed those complaints to be even sillier and sillier.
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yep.
Acolyte grew nicely as a show, up there with the better star wars content.
the arrogance of the jedi who are, indeed fallible, despite what we are led to believe in early star wars lore(you know…the ReAl StAr WaRs)…and the seeds of the Sith…very well done.
could pick some holes in a few things, but nothing that destroys the overall story…i mean i can pick holes in ‘The Wire’ if i had to…
im torn on whether there should be a second season, i can see them really stuffing that up…but they did leave the door open when they hinted to a more established sith looking out the cave…was he the real master that they were aware of?, or was he just influencing from the shadows like a pupeteer?..the Yoda bit was silly, i thought it was set 1000 years before a new hope? when we know yoda was 900 in TESB…unless its a Yoda like being, and we learn that they are critical to the Jedi , which then revolves back nicely to Grogu actually being important instead of a cute cuddly toy with force capabilities
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Spoiler
That was Darth Plagueis, Palpatine’s master
As for the timeline, it is fine. It is 132 years before the events of RotJ (BBY for nerds). I think the only issue with the timeline was people complained that Yoda should he been present and wasnt (the universe is big, just because you dont see him doesnt mean he wasnt somewhere), and that one of the Jedi from one of the earlier episodes (the guy with the big pointy head) had previously in some source been given an age that meant he shouldnt have been around at this time. The first is an obviously silly criticism, the second might be true but pretty trivial.
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132 years…ok… i thought i read 1000…
now im trying to mentally figure out that if the spooky dude in the shadow was Palpatines master, that within 132 years Palpatine looks about 300 years old…this Sith shit really ages you doesnt it…
Can’t describe just how happy I am to see this. “Underrated” doesn’t begin to cover it, hopefully more people find it interesting once it’s remastered. I know I can’t wait to see it in that format.
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That’s great news, I just need to find out how to access Peacock in the UK now, if we even have it (is there another platform they broadcast through in England?)
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Can’t wait, I’m one of those annoying people who mentions The Wire every five seconds but I’ve never seen this before.
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Me too. I’ve wanted to see this ever since The Wire.
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HOTD boiling up very nicely.
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Ah fuck. There was a long standing hold out of music rights and I saw David Chase say something about that had finally been resolved and meant to come on here and tell you. It happened shortly after Andre’s death and so people were responding to it like a deal done in his honour 
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I bet this was @Nikola after seeing they are going to be streaming Homicide: life on the streets 
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Apple have done a tv adaptation of Presumed Innocent and its great.
I remember enjoying the Harrison Ford version when I saw it in the cinema as a kid (possibly the response of a 12 year old responding to Greta Sacchi’s topless scenes) and so wasn’t sure how this would stand up, and whether I’d watch the whole thing wondering whether they were going to feel the need to do something different with the ending to maintain the suspense. The last episode is out on Wednesday and while I have no idea about that, even if the ending is scene for scene the same as the film it will have been worth it. Best thing I’ve seen on tv in a while and Ruth Negga (as the cheated on wife) is predictably brilliant.
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Once more for the feels… 
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Well, The Wire is amazing. I can’t argue with people who call the best TV show ever made, even though I don’t hold it as close to my heart as Homicide and Twin Peaks. For me, the main difference between Homicide and The Wire is that I’ve always felt that Homicide focused on the impact of crime on the little man, while Homicide paid more attention to its impact on society as a whole, as well as politics. Also, Homicide is 90s in a nutshell - there are also Nine Inch Nails and Faith No More songs in the show, tugging at my heartstrings. I mean, I didn’t really stand a chance, did I? 
I genuinely knew nothing about it, I’ve always thought that Homicide isn’t of interest to anyone anymore, especially after all the hype about The Wire died down due to superheroes and reality TV and whatnot. I hope it’s left unchanged aside from graphic improvements!
I’m looking at the poster of the crew and I’m singing Never Gonna Give You Up…
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