What’s your opinion on the following
Sinner
Trapped
The Stranger
Sense 8
Dead Wind
Bitter Daisies
Signs
Capitani
Border Town
Invisible City
The Truth Seekers
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Trapped season 1 is brilliant.
This feels like a deja vu
Sense 8 @ 1
The Stranger @ 2
Sinner @ 3
You are welcome 
I’ve only watched The Sinner from that list. I thought the first season was fantastic, the second was good and the third season was incredibly disappointing and just kept getting worse as it went on. I haven’t watched the fourth season yet but from the reviews I’ve read it is supposedly a return to the standards set by the first season.
@Redbj what’s the verdict so far?
It’s like meeting a cousin of a really close friend that has some of the same mannerisms. Some of the changes make sense, some just seem like tv writers think they’re better than Jordan. Enjoying it, but was hoping for something a bit closer to original. Hope springs eternal.
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nah, im onboard, they just couldnt do 14 books and stay true to the source material.
its really hitting its straps now for me, and the one remarkable thing, through all the changes, for me, its still something that Jordan could have written…
the scene where Nyn tells Rand about egwenes breakbone fever…its actually more powerful than the way it happened in the books (as a way of Moraine telling Nyn she could chanel) …but the overall result was similar.
yep…it was clunky to begin with(but i still loved it) , but episodes 4 and 5 have it hitting its straps…
you can see the characters developing on a similar pathway to the books.
in a way, its like they are reaching the same destination, but travelling a different road.
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FWIW, im a book fan first, im hgearing all the moaning and groaning about ho far its deviated from book lore (to me it hasnt in spirit), but if it was basically just a cut, copy and paste from the books maybe it wouldnt capture me as much, i mean, id KNOW everything as it was about to happen…im liking the guessing game.
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Yes episode four was so much better than the first three.
I don’t mind if they change things within reason, I hated GoT because they killed off characters in the show that were still huge alive characters in the books (and still are… Fucking Martin!) So if they start doing stuff like that I’ll drop it.
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I hope that they don’t skip Elyas, they already have missed 1 bit… He was a great character and pivotal in Perrins development.
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They also keep alive characters that were fucking terrible and escaped death every fucking episode. Just kill them off FFS I kept shouting yet no they kept cropping up again to annoy me. Started going bonkers well before the final season. I mean how do you escape being killed by a dragon when it’s on top of you?
Yeah I’m enjoying it! episodes 4 and 5 are much better. It’d be the longest season ever if they had to include all of Jordan’s stuff. It’ll be interesting to see what characters they cull from the book (quick check on wiki tells me there are only 2782 distinct characters in series lol)
Game of Thrones lost many things when they ran out of material from George RR Martin but one of the worst thing it did was lose its balls to upset and shock the audience.
Prime example of that is the Battle of Winterfell. Everyone expected a massacre with a vast majority of the cast being killed off. A film length episode full of all our favourites suffering death at the hands of White Walkers and the survivors either narrowly avoiding defeat by killing the Night King or having to retreat to King’s Landing and trying a desperate allegiance with Cersei. I think all of us could have imagined a battered army led by a handful of remaining main characters showing up in the south and Cersei launching a surprise attack on them before realising herself that the stories of the Walkers was real.
Instead the show put all the characters in a situation where they should have died such as Brienne of Tarth being buried under a mound the dead trying to rip her throat out and then the next scene she’s alive and well. Exactly the same scene with Jamie - who only has one hand, how did he fight out of that?
Grey Worm and all the Unsullied were outside the walls and got smashed by the wall of undead. They should have died.
All the Dothraki charged off for some bizarre reason (that was clearly more about getting “the shot” of the lights going out than it was about a realistic battle strategy) yet after the battle there are still a tonne of Dothraki walking around.
Arya got grabbed round the throat mid air by an enemy that turns everyone he touches to ice but she was somehow fine and able to do a stupid drop knife move to kill him in one of the least earned endings to a plotline I’ve seen (she was never set up as the one to kill the Night King. That should have been Jon, as cheesy as that would have been, and Arya was clearly supposed to be Cersei’s assassin while disguised as Jamie).
Sam survives the battle for some unknown reason. He is pointless to the plot from that point apart from an out of character scene telling Jon about his parentage. He was allowed to survive for a bit of fan service.
It was all a nonsense, the writers absolutely did not care once they got past the source material and exposed that they really had no interest or understanding of the world they were supposed to be building/developing.
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That’s the one, what a fuck wit of a poor character badly acted and yet lives through everything despite the odds and the nonsense it was to keep the limp squid alive. 
the less talked about GOT the better.
even peak GOT was way to repeditively violent and Rapey to be honest.
i was hooked. absolutely…looking back…its all a bit Meh with the worst closing out of a series in the history of television (opinion obviously)
if WOT can keep doing its thing, stay out of the gutter and not sucumb to fan pressure it should be fine…i like it better than GOT (bias? absolutely) despite the questionable budgetry restraints and almost tacky like sets ( almost like a movie bros warner studio is Tar Valon)…to me, im not too bothered, dont need the battle of the bastards type cinematography(as good as it was) every episode…theres heaps of good stuff going on that hints at the books and drops lovely little nuggets for future episodes
that said…Dumai wells could be the greatest moment in High Fantasy TV if approached correctly and done well…massive challenge to get that right…in a way i wont be too dejectyed if they cop out and and down play it, rather that than epically fail it…(maybe i wouldnt, IDK, probably the high point of the books for me)
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GOT at its best was never about the battles or the wars. The battles and wars were tools of politics, not the purpose. The first four series understood that the real intrigue was the politics - the “why” not the “how”. Later season relied on huge battle scenes with little thought, effort or care for the storyline. It’s a shame how it ended. I loved that series and read all the books but the last three seasons have turned me off ever watching it again.
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i understand your angle…the issue for me though is you cant seperate that out …its the package…in football terms it was LFC circa 2014…Saurez was amazing, couple of others were better than good, but the balance was just dross…
i remember before the show got so pathetic, even in its prime it was way too rapey and violent.
again, very hard to seperate that out…as well as alot of it was written, the mud was still very muddy.
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I remember thinking hardhome was one of the best episodes of tv I’d ever seen. The action was great, but it was more about how the show was never going to be the same again…a line had been crossed with the white walkers and for everyone it was now a terrifying reality. Genuinely terrifying. With the ultimate resolution of the white walker storyline this episode now means pretty much nothing. The final season did that to pretty much every interesting story line that had previously made rewatching over and over again worthwhile.
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Got round to watching Parasite this evening. After seeing your comments, I pushed it up the list. Glad I did (so thanks for that). Didnt go the way I was expecting. Would have liked a different ending, but thought it was a really good film!
Watching a few episodes of cowboy bepop now. Never got to see the anime version before but i’m enjoying the live version…Will probably watch the anime afterwards.
Sad to hear that the live action version has been cancelled after just one season. Really annoys me when that happens instead of giving the show a second chance.
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Spot on.
When I think back the moments I remember are the mountain squeezing that guys head (the screams and then silence for the credits), Hodor holding the door sacrificing himself (that was mind fuck) Boltons torture scene with Theon and the red wedding. That was great and some of the best TV. It pushed boundaries, shocked and provided unexpected twists.
They also ruined some characters who became shadows of their former selves. Tyrion went from cutting intellectual wit, to drunk forever making dick jokes about Varys (who at one point was an important character that rival to little finger), but he himself was seeming only kept in to be the butt of jokes.
It’s a shame because it was a great series with some of the most memorable tv moments. Today it will be remembered as the show which lost its way.
I think my biggest disappointment was Jaime Lannister. The twists and turns of his character to go from one of the most hated to someone I was rooting for and back and forth again. His was perhaps the most well written and interesting character arcs until the final series where they just tore up everything that happened in the thousands of pages in between and was the same person in his last episode as in his first.
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