The TV Thread redux

Meet the Binkses!

It’s a screwball comedy set in Jar Jar’s family home in the vein of I Love Lucy.

I’m halfway through Season 2 of True Detective. Just watched the 4th episode. Fucking garbage.

The acting’s awful, the dialogue’s stilted and stupid, ridiculous gunfight, no chemistry between the leads whatsoever. Every single character is unbelievable. Every single one.

Horrible.

Tempted to skip straight to season 3 now, particularly as I know that Mahershala Ali’s in it and he’s superb in everything I’ve seen him in.

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Am I allowed to say I’m enjoying Obi Wan Kenobi more than Boba Fett?

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Or he is a misogynist? :see_no_evil:

Haha, I thought that you were trying to pitch a ‘fly on the wall’ reality show. Like the Osbournes and Kardasians shows. :joy::nerd_face:

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You know when the problems with the Jedi started? When we started admitting all those damn women.

I like Obi Wan way more than I liked Boba Fett. There are problems making a …6?..year old girl outrun grown men, it’s a bit cringe worthy, but enjoy the general energy of the show. Have to watch through your inner-child jedi tinted shades, but I enjoyed first couple episodes. All the shows have a bit of writers block that every season has to be main character protecting some cute helpless thing (baby Yoda, Lea). Can we just have a frequin Jedi knight f’ing stuff up with his light saber please? I still have hope.

Boba Fett was terrible. They took everything that people liked about the character and lit it on fire. He was old, slow, couldn’t fight, he couldn’t solve any problems himself, had to be rescued in about every episode, and when it got decent it was the Mandalorian and Boba was nowhere in site.

@Kopstar Season 2 of True Detective doesn’t get any better. I think I made it through 7 episodes waiting for the turn to good TV before I quit. Go right to season 3.

Stranger Things season 4 the best since 1. They turned a bit more into the horror genre, but it’s working. I’m enjoying this season much more than previous 2. I kind of laughed through the last 2 and got through on nostalgia, but this season is actually fairly good. Love the karate skills on display, about spit my beverage out when we got a glimpse of the sweet moves when they were on the plane.

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I felt like they just gave up on Boba Fett part way through. They should have done a Sci-Fi gangster series. Something like Goodfellas or The Godfather.I don’t think they know how to do an anti-hero.

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I agree with sentiment. The biggest issue for Boba Fett series was that the Mandalorian existed. Boba Fett should have always had his helmet on too and been a bad ass, but then it wouldn’t have been different from Mando. They went with trying to humanize him and show the man below the mask, which was a mistake.

Nobody wanted to see an old man getting beat up and having to recover in his bacta tank on a weekly basis.

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It’s worth it to keep going to just experience how awfully shit it was and how seriously all those involved still took it. I remember episode reviews that came out at the time with the writers metaphorically shurgging saying they have no idea what the episode was supposed to be about. It was about water…at a sex party. Was the water being stolen to clean up after the sex parties?

Just genuinely absurd stuff.

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There are quite a few of S2 episodes that score over 8 on imdb, including the arsegravy that was episode 4! Baffling!

Okay so here’s my list of issues with Obi Wan so far. These are just things that bother me personally, so don:t @ me if you disagree. Additionally I never watched any of the Clone Wars or Rebels cartoons so if any of these are ‘explained’ in those, well, that’s an issue in itself as it shouldn’t be necessary to have seen those imho.

So to the list in no particular order.

Spoilers

Obi Wan in hiding.

He keeps his beard and Jedi robes as his everyday outfit and yet the force sensitive inquisitors who’ve been looking for him for 10 years can’t seem to find him. Yet that other jedi also just happens to come across him in the middle of the desert and Bail Organa know exactly where he lives too.

The inquisitors.

They turn up in the village looking for Jedi, they know he’s there. Out of the hundred people in the street they magically decide to ask Owen Lars if he knows where the Jedi is. They ask him and threaten his family but nothing else. We learn later that the inquisitor is able to use force powers to read minds, but they conveniently don’t bother with that.

Additionally, and this is a minor gripe, while I’m all for diversity in shows and especially in Star Wars, I don’t like it in the Empire. It always made sense to me growing up that officers were all white men. Have your diversity in the rebellion and the resistance, not in the Empire or First Order. No minorities, no aliens, only a handful of women.

Leia Organa

Ok, so no problem with the casting or anything like that, but more some decisions around her.

Why the fuck does this 10 year old kid have access to a droid with a circular saw attachment. Judging from how protective her mum is, I don’t think that would fly with her.

Also how are we, the feeble minded audience supposed to know that this is Leia from the orginal trilogy? Of course, by putting her hair in complex braids and putting her in a white outfit. Then when she has to do some ceremonial stuff put her in a simplified version of her Bespin ensemble, then when you put her ‘in disguise’ later on make it a green jacket so she looks like she’s on Endor…:roll_eyes:

But wait! She’s being kidknapped! Let’s have the most pointless and cringey kidknapping attempt ever where she manages to evade capture by not walking into trees…only to then be captured anyway. Maybe just miss that bit out and have her being kidknapped easily in the first place.

How did the kidknappers know to kidknap her? Well apparently it’s common knowledge that Obi Wan and Bail Organa fought together in the Clone Wars. But for some reason, nobody ever thought to check up on Anakin’s step brother for any reason whatsoever. Apart from that one time earlier when they randomly picked him out in a crowd.

So anyway skip ahead and Obi Wan and Leia are united. He can’t use his force powers because he doesn’t want to draw attention to himself. He disguises himself in a Breaking Bad outfit until he frees her from the kidknappers using the drug thing that he was oh so fortunately given for free by a dealer just minutes earlier…:roll_eyes:

So he immediately discards his Breaking Bad outfit and reverts.back to his incognito beard and cloak combo and walks around with his laser sword hanging out his pants so that when every bounty hunter on the planet is alerted to his presence, he can be easily found. He is now being chased by an inquisitor, a jurassic park raptor and one of the members of Daft Punk, but for some reason still doesn’t use force run or jump even though all the attention has already been attracted.

After a bit of exposition he finds out Anakin is alive. But this makes little sense in the context. Either he’s been alive for 10 years doing nothing and nobody knows about him until now or he’s been doing stuff and evrybody knows about him, but for some reason Bail Organa who is in direct contact with Obi Wan didn’t bother to mention it.

Neither explanation is satisfactory as either Bail is useless as fuck or Vader has been doing nothing and the inquisitors have done all the hunting down of the jedi without him, which takes a big dump on what Obi Wan told Luke about how Anakin helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the jedi knights…but actually didn’t.

Also I think all these people being force trained dilutes the original canon. The rule of 2 means there should only have been 2 sith and the jedi were goodies who were hunted down by Vader. I don’t personally believe any would have been kept alive for any reason. Except Yoda and Obi Wan because they HID, not ran around the galaxy saving kids, or you know having a lightsaber fight with Darth Vader, which again for me flies in the face of ‘when I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master’ - they shouldn’t have met from the lava until the death star. Simple.

Finally, this show makes Obi Wan look thick as fuck as he repeatedly makes amateur mistakes.

I’m sure there was more, but that was just 3 episodes. Maybe some of them are a bit picky but I don’t think it should be difficult to make a show that has a good story and lines up with what very little we know from Obi Wan in A New Hope.

Wasn’t that shown in Revenge of the Sith with order 66? Vader would have known that Obi Wan survived it, but I dont think they’d have had any reason to suspect there was any great remnant of the Jedi left to hunt down afterwards.

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Like i said… watch with your inner child jedi tinted specs on :nerd_face: :joy:

That’s the problem. my inner child jedi knows and loves Star Wars and has been waiting decades to see Vader help the empire hunt down and kill the jedi, and all we get is Order 66 and then 10 years of sitting on his crispy ass.

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Yep, apparently being devoured whole by a sarlaac, a creature you shouldn’t be able to escape from leads to redemption and being an all round nice guy.

Fuck off.

For those that haven’t seen it the 3rd episode of Obi Wan is pretty cool in some respects but also raises more questions.

No spoilers just yet.

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Hmmm, I remember being so confused at how bad it was, but gave it so much room to develop into something that was worth my time on the back of how good the first series was. I’d imagine a lot of the positive reviews were from people in that mindset before they’d begrudgingly accepted that it was all a pointless silly mess.

I watched The Outlaws over the last few days (in time; second series goes up this eve). I thought it was pretty good. I was expecting a fun, funny, silly sitcom, with Christopher Walken getting all confused when a young Bristolian asks if he can spare a fag, etc. But there was more to it than I expected. Certainly the best thing Gervais or Merchant has done without the other.

Plus Rhianne Barreto is fuckin’ gorgeous.

ive been enjoying Obi Wan.

i think after the height of internet criticism of picking holes in 50 minute TV shows (game of thrones season 7 and 8) ive calmed right back down, its virtuallyt impossible to have a 10 episode, 50 minute weekly show and have zero plots holes.

some stuff needs to be forgiven, or at least let go of until the season is completed (some shows are better binged as it doesnt give the viewers a week to pick apart the holes before they get answered) for example, Darth just lets the driod save Obi Wan…feels like theres a reason for that…its bizarre because he has a big mask on, but the few seconds the camera holds on him seems to suggest Darth has let him go by choice, maybe a realisation…

either way…im just enjoyting the ride…

i even tolerated the Book of Boba despite it being very very weak…but Obi Wan, feels alot better…

the Leia chase was silly…very silly, that was about the only bit that really irked, becuase it just was padding…they could have just grabbed her, the story gained zero from the scene, the result was the same…

as for Luke being housed at Anakins mothers last known residential address, thats always been ridiculous, but thats not on Obi Wan the series. farcical, especially as in the very first scenes of the whole universe two driods that Darth Knows, released by his own daughter, land on a planet where his Mums last resting place was and he doesnt even think to go get them…bah…

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