The Unreliable LFC Transfer Rumours Discussion Thread (Part 3)

I think Mourinho sold him.

Once. On loan. For 14 minutes.

lol

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As @ZinedineBiscan said, signed on loan. It’s really odd because he was bought by Rio Ave, a then-Primeira Liga club, managed at the time by a certain Nuno Espírito Santo, before getting signed on loan by Real Madrid, who then played him primarily in Castilla.

Wikipedia has a fun phrasing:

Not sure what kind of “welcoming” Mourinho was doing


Also, in the end, he never played for Rio Ave. They loaned him to Monaco the season after, and then renewed the loan after that, before selling him. Fun fact, it was also Santo who signed him for whatever random club it was in Saudi Arabia.

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If Zubi wants to come now and we still want him surely this can be wrapped up to sign at the start of the window?

If I’m the club, I would be interested to see how Baj gets along at Salzburg this season. If it looks like he’s turned a corner after his growth/injury issues- and with Grav’s emergence- we may not need a big MF signing. Of course I wouldn’t be disappointed if we brought him in, but may mean one of Jones or Elliott ,in addition to Endo, would be sold.

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Gravenberch hé chose Bayern over us we still bought him after he was messed about by them?

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Yeah, only kind of though. Bayern landed him in part because they moved quicker than everyone else to turn their interest into a firm offer. At that point even had he preferred us it would have required him saying no to a firm offer from a club making clear he was a priority for them to leave open the possibility of saying yes to us without having a firm offer on the table to say yes to.

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I was referring to the last decade. Since Suarez, who has left when we didn’t want them to?

Does Coutinho count?

I feel like that question could have three new answers come next June


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Surely if we don’t offer them new contracts then we don’t really want them?

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Depends what you mean by ‘we’; I think the club and fans may feel differently on these ones.

I meant that from the club’s perspective, as I presumed that’s what @WeeJoe originally meant


Depends on the “who” it is we say didn’t want to sell. FSG hierarchy said no to the move precisely because they wanted to demonstrate that we were no longer in a position of having to sell players who were important to us if we didn’t want. That he was still sold was because Klopp and Edwards convinced Gordon it was a fight not worth winning.

The take home, I think, is there was enough commitment from the club to keep him had everyone been aligned with that being the best option for the club as a whole.

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There were rumours he was offered the vice captaincy as part of a new deal.

Even then I think it’s a tricky one to answer, as Limie says the club isn’t a singular entity but a collective of different opinions. I daresay there were at least some who were relieved to see the back of Luis and all the drama he brought with him.

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Taking both into consideration, I think I would narrow it down to the footballing operations (so not the executive level, e.g. what Edwards would be now/what Gordon was then).

I think both club and fans were happy enough with that ÂŁ140m, though I might be influenced by hindsight

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Yes.