The Unreliable LFC Transfer Rumours Discussion Thread (Part 3)

No, he’s good lad. He won’t go there. Utd will try for Ollie Watkins, he’ll turn them down and Utd will end up with DCL. Could it be better than that?

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Goldbridge’s 10am livestream is going to be pure gold, can’t wait :popcorn:

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‘Don’t belive it. Not reliable. Doesn’t mean anything.’

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I don’t get why this is a thing? It’s not like joining Newcastle would be against all prevailing wisdom. I think Alex Ferguson would struggle to make a case for the lad to go to Man Utd.

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There’s some sort of a complex at Newcastle but one that struggle to define. Yes, they’ve been trophyless for so long and they had their share of near misses in the 90s but there’s always a been a sense of pride there, especially during the Ashley years. With that stadium and that support, they really were an impressive fan base, at least to me, and I don’t remember them calling Liverpool fans names or insulting the memory of Hillsborough victims.

Since the takeover, though, there’s been a marked change in discourse. I won’t be going into politics but their mouthpieces have been busy creating a sentiment of a club that is prudent and on the up but one that is not rich and won’t be going against PSR and buying like other stated-owned clubs. It got boring after a while, to be honest, and the sooner they shed that artificial image, the better chances they’ll have of enticing the Šeškos of this world. It’s not like they haven’t spent a penny since the Saudi takeover.

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Is there any truth that we apparently have opened talks with RM for the transfer of Rodrigo. If this is true I would not like to play poker against Hughes or Edward’s.

He would be great to play Diplomacy against

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Definitely an additional CB is needed. Looking at preseason, Endo and Grav will be used as backup CB’s when really necessary.

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That goal of his is going to help the cause. He’s not weak on his wrong foot.

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Joyce says we’re looking at young CBs round Europe.
Name drops Giovanni Leoni of Parma. Anyone seen him play? (edit: a quick google says he played 17 Serie A games last season, scored 1 goal, and is only 18 years old)

Also maintaining the link with Guehi

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Think we are going to see more of Rio as this season goes on.

I wouldn’t be complaining if we get two defensive reinforcements including Guehi in and call this window done.

Regardless of whether we get Isak.

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A profile of the Leoni from Calcio done just over a year ago while he was playing Serie B football at 17; seems he’s a highly rated talent in Italy:

Giovanni Leoni, 1.93 m tall, physically strong and ambidextrous, known to all as “Leoncino,” is a highly agile and compact central defender, with a good head, looking to Smalling and Van Dijk (his dream is to play in the Premier League, where he watches every game in his spare time, or for Roma, where he’s a fan) as role models – as he stated in an old interview. Leoni also possesses another key characteristic: versatility, which has allowed him to function both as a pure central defender and as a right-sided “arm” in a three-man defense, where Pirlo has been deploying him in recent league matches. These are positions in which he has also been able to showcase other key qualities: order and precision in closing down and preventative marking, and skill in build-up play. A young, modern central defender, well-structured, patient, disciplined, polite, and determined, capable of both defending and building play.

The young central defender’s story begins a long time ago. First Roma, then a move to Veneto for family reasons. Destination Padua. His journey began with Vigontina, a Veneto club where Leoni moved with his family at the age of 5, before moving on to Cittadella and finally to Padua, where he progressed from the Under-13s to the first team. Finally, in January, he arrived at Marassi, on the Sampdoria side. And now, interest from Serie A has been piqued, a rapid but continuing ascent. In short, Leoni is destined to continue making waves.

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I do think we should go in for him.

The problem remains the prices. We were in for Yoro as well too (who I think does have a making of a good defender, wrong choice of club).

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I can’t believe we’re just now looking around Europe for a CB. Presumably we’ve known for months that Quansah was going and would need replacing. Surely there’s some kind of plan in place.

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The whole idea of us starting to look for a centre back is absolutely absurd, if you understand anything about the way recruitment works at a modern top level club.

Transfers are worked on months, if not years in advance. Liverpool will have ongoing relationships with multiple clubs and agents and will be working consistently on hundreds of players.

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They’ve just told the journalists now… after all you don’t want teams gamzumping deals

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Exactly this. Liverpool scouts will have a longlist of players they think will be useful for a position. The transfer/data analytics team will then whittle it down to a shortlist, of which one or two will become priorities who we try to sign.

The interesting part of the Joyce article is that the club are clearly comfortable letting on that Leoni is on the shortlist.

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The club realised that the fans have had nothing to whine about all summer and for a lot thats the best bit so they have have dragged the CB on a bit to keep those happy.

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You know me too well!

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