The Unreliable Rumours Discussion Thread (Part 1)

I don’t want to get into an accounts debate here but i can’t see how we lose over £100mill last season and it’s a good financial year for our books? especailly when last years books were bad and this next one will be even worse, thats basically losing 2 summer transfer windows of funds in one year,i fail to see where thats a good financial year and totally understand why the club are trying to balance the books,rather than spend mega money and get us in debt upto our eyeballs off future resources,just to compete with our cheating state/oil funded competitors.

They are making it almost impossible to compete with skewing the transfer market the way they are,we just need to carry on in our lane and carry on doing things the decent and right way,keeping us financially safe,even if it means no more signings till next summer.Maybe thats the plan,we tweak the team last year and this summer,while money is tight,then go big next summer when the kitty is alot healthier and won’t need to go into debt to pay for it.

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How many subs did we have in 1981? :wink:

We are now in the 2021/2022 financial year. 2020/2021 was bad and so was 2019/2020, we were assured the Redbird investment meant the owners wouldn’t be recouping the losses from those years out of 2021/2022 and onwards.

That’s because he (?) has a track record of deliberately ignoring what other people with actual expertise in accounting and reading to fit his (?) agenda of FSG are terrible because they don’t spend.

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This is news to me, any source on that?

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Can you quote those actual posts? You seem triggered. Why so emotional?

I love all these “cultured” Superfan takes about statements that were never actually made.

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Klopp: “As far as I know, it means it gives us consistency in what we have done so far.” Klopp said in a press conference on Friday.

“But that’s it, pretty much. It’s good news. Clubs suffered as well in the last year, this gives us a bit more security that it will go on like it did before.”

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Was it one?

40 years may be a bit much - Although I remember games and players from that time, I was too young to remember it enough to make a definitive statement on which is/was better (hence why i said probably as I know some people will disagree - would make a good discussion thread).

I do think this squad is better than our post 86 sides under Kenny though.

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We do have some needs in the squad but that’s because the last blokes we bought to fill those needs now apparently aren’t good enough, fit enough, shiny new enough and so we need some new ones that will 100% definitely be better than the ones we bought last time that people now want replaced.

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Is this you? Has to be.

Correct. :+1:

Anyway, I agree with your point in that we do have the strongest and deepest squad we’ve had in decades. But I think that some of our teams from the halcyon days of 1970s and 1980s would have this current lot for breakfast.

But that’s just my opinion and a topic for another thread. :sunglasses:

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Thought you said we still need an attacker? And Origi has been here 8 years he’s not the last one we bought to fill it. Last one we bought was Jota who is great, exactly what we needed and a bit like what we need to replicate now.

Can you also quote the post that backs this statement? That specifically references winning the transfer window?

This summer has been consistent with previous ones, so in that regards I think they are living up to what they have said.

The Redbird investment was for all FSG’s sporting groups not just LFC,they will only cover our losses and keep our heads above water,without us having to take out a bank loan like Arsenal,United and a few other clubs did,thats not them pumping in cash to let us spend massively in the transfer market (which probably would have happened if covid didn’t hit us),if we had no losses and they gave us £100mill ontop of our usual spending then fair enough but they aren’t.

Like i said previously,maybe they are saving it for next summer when a bigger change may be needed in our front 3 and midfield and our funds will be in a much healthier state,with actually having the cash in the bank and not relying on putting debt on the club.

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I mean, talk about triggered. Amazing you felt the need to reply to this if it didn’t pertain to you…

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And what does it prove, exactly?

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I think we do because neither Origi nor Minamino is a wide forward in the mould of what we need. But I’m not naive enough to think buying someone immediately makes us better though just because they are new. Much like Minamino hasn’t made us better but pretty much everyone was excited by his signing initially.

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I think Origi has the tools, but not the consistency. I think it was our final pre-season game, I thought he wouldn’t be able to do anything down the right wing (he’s mostly played left or central for us so far), but he actually did look threatening.

Minamino I think played mainly on the wing for Salzburg? He’s got much of the pressing and the tactical bits right at the moment I think, just needs more time bulking up and playing with the rest of our team.

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It’s not a level comparison precisely because of the different role of subs. It wasn’t too much earlier than the period you’re talking about that Liverpool romped a title while giving appearances to only 16 players (I think) across the entire season. In 1981, despite the trophies, our squad was weak enough that we had to use a player as unfancied as Howard Gayle in key games. There would be uproar if we had to play a similar standard of player in a CL semi this year.

The reality is that once you allow squads big enough that an entire second team can make the bench, no matter how objectively good the players are, the players from 18 up in the rotation are going to be looked at as not good enough because they wont get many games and likely wont play that well (because of rust) when they do. It is an issue that money cannot solve.

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