I’m on board with finding a better midfield balance if we see Macca depart and someone like Wharton come in.
I’d be sad if Jones leaves as I think he is a good player, local and home grown too. At his best he is worth a place in the side, but he sort of hovers between that and being an alternate. Which you need.
I am shocked Rhys Williams is still here… Forgot Elliott hadn’t fully gone. Personally of that 9 I wouldn’t like to see Jones go. Not sure how I feel about Macallister. Been gutted a year ago however.
I can’t see a transition season being any worse than what we are serving up currently. I do think the CL football is key to be able to attract the better players if we are to make major changes. Wharton or Anderson would be good signings for us.
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I am not sure I would be too disappointed with 6 or 7 of those 9 leaving (beyond who we know is leaving anyhow in Robbo and Salah).
Me too. I think id rather keep Jones and Mac Allister and replace Endo with Morton. We’d have a good balance then. Slot doesn’t rotate now because he feels he doesn’t have options so I’d rather add to the number of usable midfielders instead of selling a couple to buy one.
That’s the thing with Jones, he might feel like he’s had enough of being mainly a squad player and would be prepared for a new challenge.
This season there were games where he should’ve played more in my opinion. Who knows what also happened behind the scenes from the end of January until now.
A Wharton/Gravenberch midfield two would be painful to watch. We constantly get ran all over as it is without adding another midfielder who lacks physicality.
A team of Kantes would get run around with our current set up.
If you look at the running and defensive stats on Mac and how they have fallen off a cliff this year compared to the last two then, it’s very clear he is capable of doing a lot more. Sure some people have suspected he’s gone off, but that drop-off does not happen to that degree at that age. . This is far more indicative of is an issue of how everything is set up around him not of it, being a him issue
Jones is a squad player. I really wish he had kicked on. Everytime he plays a good game you want him to grab it by the scruff in the next but he disappoints. He has had enough time.
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Wes Brown, Phil Neville, Nicky Butt, John O’Shea, Darren Fletcher, Danny Wellbeck, Johnny Evans, Scott Mctomimay. All squad players who were valuable and useful assets in some very successful sides.
This is the type of player our academy should be producing every few years. Someone who accepts the squad role for a few years because they know it’s only down from here for them. Eventually you get the next one come through or they see a chance to play more and so on they go but you’ve already got the next academy lad coming through, albeit perhaps in a different position.
Those players are massively valuable but you know there’s a ceiling to them. I reckon we’ve found Jones’ ceiling and so now it’s how long he stays before he wants to play more. Gomez has been another example of this for us, maybe Elliott too.
Not every academy kid can be Owen, Gerrard or Trent. You need a steady flow of the likes of Carragher, Kelleher, Quansah, Jones types too. Not only does it save you cash buying squad players but they make you good money selling them on eventually and you need homegrown players on the books.
So you’re absolutely right, we shouldn’t be chasing Jones out the door at this point just because he’s “only a squad player”. We need a squad but we’ve some big holes to fill in that first 11 too. If any of the midfield were to go Mac Allister is probably the one based on age, value, contract, the fact he’s not home grown and the fact he’s been crap all season.
We had plenty of such players when Klopp left. Unfortunately, Hughes and Slot sold most of them (Kelleher, Quansah, Elliott, Morton, Nunez, Diaz) and now we are suffering for that.
The problem is that you can’t keep players who want to move on to further their careers.
I reckon all but one, and maybe all, of those who left last summer wanted to leave. If anyone is to blame for that it’s not Edward’s and Hughes, it’s Slot for not giving some of those players reason to believe that they had a future at Anfield,
Pretty fair to lay these losses largely at Slots door,he did make it obvious that he had his favourites, and it would have left little doubt in players minds what their option was.
And they took it!
Why not,a player has a limited time at the top ,even without injuries,can’t blame them for that.