Yeah but what is their standing jump like, come on Livvy we need more 
What I am saying is that Hughes hasnāt done his work well enough. That deal with Aston Villa was a complete clusterfuck that fucked up both the player and the club.
That clause of an automatic buy after 10 games is a perfect no pressure escape clause for AV.
It was his choice to go there and under those terms, it isnāt Hughes fault regarding the unknown Villa internal politics happening when the deal was agreed.
This is all on Villa and Elliot as he had options to go elsewhere.
Yeah hardly a master stroke from villa to fuck themselves
It also damages their reputation who else would agree a similar kind of deal?
Hughes gave AV too much wriggle room in that deal without a recall clause and it ended up as a lose-lose situation for us and Elliott. And now, we are left with a player that nobody else wants to give a shot at.
Aaron Wan-Bissaka and West Ham already have earlier this window
Rather see neither lad go ,give them a chance under a new manager, if they donāt cut it fair enough, seems a few are being cut because Slot didnāt use them, after they were OK,surely this is a premature move, we have already driven Jones out because of Slot!
Do we empty all the kids out? Hughes is off, letās bloody stop,we will give someone world beater,soon if we havenāt already!
This forum is getting increasingly, and unpleasantly, wild in the way the most vitriolic of blame is thrown around on matters we have no insight into.
And yet Slot has gone and Jones has still chosen to leave. Some influence that.
I never have time for vitriol towards players, and often make that point here. I have less sympathy for suits who have done a terrible job at squad building and are leaving to get rich in Saudi
I donāt know whether there was one, but the club didnāt need a recall clause. Villa were paying his wages and not playing him and were open that they were happy to let him come back to us in the winter window.
There was also an opportunity for us to renegotiate the deal to take the permanent move element of the deal off the table but for whatever reason that didnāt happen. I think reporting at the time suggested this was down to Villa not willing to pay a small compensatory fee.
Kinda accepted that we are not going to get in the players I think we should have gotten over the previous months. We seem to either not have the desire, money or acumen. Not too stressed or worried about the end of the window as a result.
This is potentially the squad Iraola has to work with until January so letĀ“s see how he does and what he can get out of them. Should still be capable of top four.
Anybody we bring in now is a bonus.
Thatās inevitable when weāre on the hunt for both left wingers and right wingers.
Must be for mutual benefit as looking at the deal, it seems the appearance metrics arenāt easily achievable.
But just proves the point that what Hughes did isnāt out of the norm.
Seems the same people with the histrionics
I feel the same frustration, and I think Hughes will leave without much fanfare. At the same time, I try to remember we donāt really know what is going on behind the scenes, to the extent that we donāt really know who is doing the work. Hughes is still at the club, but Woodfine has been more prominent of late.
Get outta here there is no way heās 5ā9" 
