The Unreliable Transfer Rumours Discussion Thread (Part 5)

Basically what Lazio did back in the day.

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Is it? Seems like he“d be the perfect pick to provide versatile cover for Cm and RB.

Would I have taken him? Over those two? Probably, especially for the versatility. Although I“d have taken Wharton first.

Romano is giving Barcola eyes. That’s how desperate for a fucking rumour I am

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Yes, I need SOMETHING…give me ANYTHING damn it!

Anything in the Haissem Hassan rumour?

Doesn“t look rapid but great balance and seems to get past people. New Salah?

Support fascism?

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Oil-i-garchy…fascism

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Tuchel has also approached England more like a club team than most do. He seems first and foremost to care about how well they have done for him. That means big names who havent played that well (Foden) dont carry much weight with him. And likewise talented players on the outside. The way he has approached the job has made it a difficult group to break into if you weren’t part of the initial group. It means talented players like Jones who someone else might look at and say ā€œhe can do a job for us in a few different waysā€ who other England managers would have found room for just dont get a look in under Tuchel’s England FC approach unless they are already part of the group from 18 months ago

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That’s just speculation and there’s nothing to show Jones would have more effect in Ligue 1 than Morton, much less that he’d be one of the best mids there. I don’t see French clubs lining up to take him, even though Morton has set a good example. These comparisons are moot really because Morton is younger and his development physically was slower at Liverpool. He’s argued that he was ready for first team football but wasn’t given the chance by Slot and his rapid progress since seems to prove his point. His ascent is on the up whereas for me Curtis has stayed on the same underwhelming level. He flatters to deceive, walks around a lot and shows no real ambition IMO. He’s not a terrible player and I don;t ā€˜hate’ him. I just think we need to aim higher than him. For me Morton was always a lockpicker with a highly progressive passing range and that’s what we need. Hey, Curtis might be here next season and Iraola might get a tune out of him, Harvey and Mac which would be awesome but based on last season I’d rather he was replaced.

I’ve not seen masses of Bouaddi but what I have seen hasn’t particularly impressed me, although he is very young. Seems showy but not a lot of end product, for me.

I think Iraola likes Jones because he likes Jones’s buccaneering approach to the game - one that undoubtedly hurt him with Slot, but seems right up Iraola’s alley.

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Only one French club could afford him and they are pretty well stocked in midfield.

I appreciate your admiration of Morton. I don’t agree with your assessment of him as a player - and obviously I think your assessment of Jones is incorrect.

This is the radar comparison for Morton and Jones this season. Curtis is in pink.

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I“d argue he“s picked players on club form and how well he thinks they have played for their clubs, which is why Foden, Palmer and event Trent didn“t get in

With stones being a bit of an odd exception. Seems like Tuchel didnt really fancy Jones for England based on what he saw for us, even in the friendlies to have a look at players. Didnt get called up to even have a chance (which i would say he should have been).

Trent is on his holidays whilst Djed Spence is playing at a world cup.

Bias or bonkers?

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Is Trent as highly rated by other fans as he is by us?

I think you know the answer to that and it supports what I said.

Where did you get that image from? If Curtis does stay I can’t wait to see what Iraola does with him because he surely won;t put up with his dawdling on the ball and sideways passing stuff. Maybe it will be the making of him because I just cannot for the life of me work out what some people see in Jones that makes them go ā€˜Wow!. We can’t possibly think of getting rid of Curtis. Look what he brings to our play.’ I mean I’d love to be drooling over a player with sumptuous passing, tackling, energy and goal scoring ability, but I genuinely don’t see that. In fact, I spend most of time shouting at the TV when Curtis is on the ball. He’s clearly a player who divides opinion but I insist that if he was playing for another club we wouldn;t all be screaming to buy him. We’ll see if Hughes gives him the chance to do something for Iraola.

Spence has been a mixed bag this WC but very decent as a sub. I actually think TAA would have been very effective considering the amount of crossing England has done and when you consider how unreliable James is maybe Trent should be there. Tuchel clearly doesn’t rate him though and like Palmer and Foden you have to think it’s part of their character he doesn’t fancy.

But there are tonnes of players like that, doesn’t mean they aren’t useful. We don’t own Ismaila Sarr and I also don’t want us to buy him due to his probable high price, age and relatively low output with the exception of this season. However if he was already here I also wouldn’t want to sell him because he would be a very useful option in the wide areas that could regularly contribute.

So while I may not have been jumping on the table demanding we sign Curtios Jonesito from Espanyol the fact we already have him plays a huge part of the assessment. To this date I’m not convinced by anyone else we are linked with - Alex Scott, Ayyoub Bouaddi, Joao Gomes, Manu Kone, Gilberto Mora, Kaishu Sano and Felix Nmecha - that they are as good as Jones who is already here and has contributed to elite Liverpool squads regularly for years.

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Looking at England’s RB options, I bet Tuch would sell a kidney to have Jones in the squad right now.

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At this point I think he’d call my nan up to play RB before he called Trent, and she died 30 years ago!

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