The Unreliable Transfer Rumours Discussion Thread (Part 6)

I think the same type of link on transfers exist between Chelsea and NF, Villa and Newcastle.

Fair enough.

I would go absolutely bonkers if he leaves on a free to that lot again, had we signed Camara we should have told him either you sign an extension or we will sell you to whoever pays the money whether he likes it or not.

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Re Camara and Balogun:

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Not quite arguably. I rate Fernandes´ potential pretty highly.

I think him and Camara would be a good pair, funnily enough.

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Fernandes might have been on the shortlist, but I wonder if we would have even bothered after Spurs dropped 85M on him. He was seen as a potential market opportunity when the Irons went down - 85M is well above market value, IMO.

And all because of this Liverpool saga.

Joyce saying midfield will be the focus next season, name drops Camara. About 9 months too early to open a thread fro him though😅

Haven’t read the article but my first thought was duuh…that’s obvious as we’ve lost Curtis and Endo will be leaving with Macca’s future here up in the air, but then there is a good chance we are also losing our two main goal keepers, 3 CBs (don’t think either of our current candidates to stay are left footed are they?) a back up left back and may still have question marks around our starting RB position.

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Whilst also needing to replace van Dijk, Gomez and Tsimikas whilst hoping Mamadashvilli can step up to fill Alisson’s gloves.

Seems like a lot of work needed at the back to be saying midfield will be the focus.

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It’s frustrating that we had the highest net spend but the squad is still so thin and unbalanced. Feels like we’re a couple of injuries away from a really tough season.

That’s the last I’m saying on the matter though. Gonna get behind Iraola and the team, hope our expensive signings smash it, and we get a bit of luck with injuries for a change :folded_hands:

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Going from what was happening near the end of the window, my feeling is the club doesn’t have faith in Mama to be our no1 and will probably move him on fairly soon, hence dropping £30m on this Belgian kid.

That being the case, wouldn’t be entirely surprised to see Ali retained for another year or two to see how he develops and kick that can down the road a little further.

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Yeah that’s a distinct possibility. Either way we’ve spent about £50m on keepers in the last couple years, albeit the kid won’t cost that up front, and we’re talking about extending Alisson again as he’s still out best option even though he’s not at his best anymore.

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That struck me as a really smart deal. Essentially, we have bagsied a promising future talent at a reasonable price. It seems to suit both clubs.

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Whether it’s a lot of work really depends on how much we want to complicate it for ourselves.

The way the club has been looking at transfers of late, I could see the club deciding that have to make a statement to replace Van Dijk and getting themselves embroiled in a ÂŁ120m three month saga trying to buy the best defender in Europe.

Activate Quansah’s buy back, and CB is sorted. Replace Mac Allister with Camara and midfield is done.

I really don’t want to see the club trying to spend £100m on another superstar. I think that totally misreads the needs of the squad at this point.

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But you still need to replace Gomez/Araujo and you could argue Quansah is more the player to fulfil that than to step into being the leader of the defence.

So you still need another CB and a LB just to get back to where we are now. The business you’ve already done is well in excess of £100m and we’d be lucky to get £50m for Mac with just a year left and Real Madrid encouraging him to hang on another year.

So, a net spend of at least £100m to pretty much stand still. And that’s the issue I’m getting at. We don’t have the quality of depth we need right now and the focus next summer will just be plugging the holes left by those leaving for nothing.

Where does that leave us in terms of possibly looking at whether we’ve got what we need at RB. Could we be in the market for a number one keeper or will we make do with either a declining Alisson or an unconvincing Mamadashvilli? What are we doing about the likes of Chiesa and Endo. We don’t use them a lot but they take up a place in the squad and are senior pros you can’t just replace with kids. Anything to address those will cost money with very little we could raise to offset that spend.

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As always with these things, time will tell.

I thought the Mamadashvilli deal was smart. Get him in before he’s needed and phase Alisson out. Doesn’t look like it’s happening that way.

Still not actually sure what we’ve paid up front for this lad. Saw something that suggested a nominal fee with a load in add ons that could take it up to £30m. But then seen other reports suggesting it’s upwards of £25m up front.

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And what if Quansah doesn’t want to come back or says he wants to take his time to think about that offer? it’s sounds a nice easy solution for us but may not be deliverable so we may have to go back into the transfer market to compete for other players anyway.

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Why the hell are Liverpool journos name-dropping Camara now, especially when he was this close to joining Chelsea in the final moments of the last transfer window?! That hardly says we’re running a smooth operation. I really hope we’ll get some clarity from the powers that be soon, especially when it comes to Hughes’ departure and his, hopefully long-term successor.

At least the club will have more manoeuvring space next summer with so many high earners off the wage bill (Alisson, Van Dijk, Gomez, Tsimikas and Endo all gone) but I don’t see another planned big sale aside from Mac Allister. We have to hope the club will somehow be able to qualify for CL because all those reinforcements will not pay for themselves.

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Thats why I’m perplexed why we didn’t go for Camara now at the purported 50m- we could have raised enough from selling Macca to at least cover this. Seems odd.

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