Yeah, that’s where my brother in law is at. He’s a Florida Republican from an Indian background. On the libertarian wing of the party. All about the economy.
His take is that Trump was a good president with a few personality flaws, a bit like some Brits see Johnson.
Now he’s all in for DeSantis, who’ll be the same, but not crazy.
Do you genuinely believe Trump is a chance and Fox can swing it?
The reality is a % of voters are rusted on across both parties who would still vote for Ronald McDonald if he was the leader. Then there are those that change election to election but that group cannot support Trump this time can they? In fact I dont even reckon he will win the Republican nomination.
And as for the media what ever happened to quality journalism. I dont know the US situation but it’s a joke here in Oz with left leaning ABC v right leaning Telegraph etc. One fact, different angles.
We will see soon enough what sort of support Trump has.
I think he is still a lot more dangerous than many people imagine. He is tenacious and immune to reality. It is going to need more Republican leaders to stand up to him, and Murdoch to continue to be unimpressed.
Aside from all the legal jeopardy, I think that politically Mike Pence will wound him, and that will encourage some of the religious wing of the Republican Party to let go of Trump. I think Mitch McConnell will wound him too. But the knockout blow will come from DeSantis, as I think the party is ready to rally around him.
He seems bombastic and mean spirited, like Trump, but he stands for the same sort of thing. I think he will be the next Republican President.
Hopefully Trump fights and resists that, and damages the Republicans in the process. And as someone else said, if Trump doesn’t get the nomination, it wouldn’t surprise me if he ran as an independent.
On a personal note I have some time for the Mitt Romney and Liz Cheney brand of Republicanism. I don’t vote that way, but it has a place in the public arena and lots of people vote that way. What we’ve seen in recent years has trampled all over that.
I dont know and Im not trying to make a prediction. My point is that people are very much misremembering how much opposition there was to Trump in 2015-16 from the party establishment and the RW media right up until the point he won the nomination in the summer of 16. Remember, Manafort only reappeared because he couldnt get staff for his campaign and this guy, from the Regan era, volunteered to do it for free.
The point you make about the cemented aspect of the electorate is an important one. Trump still seems to have a floor among republicans of about 35%. There are lots of polls out there showing DeSantis being trump head to head, but I think people are taking exactly the wrong point from that. Most as still relatively close with Trump having way more support than someone you can reasonably claim is someone the party has moved away from. And which group do you think is the more cemented? The 35%-40% who still think Trump is the best bet after all this [waves hands], or the 45-50% who are currently more interested in seeing someone new, someone who is more likely to let them down once he is shown up in the crucible of a nasty campaign.
Once you factor that in and then appreciate how few people in the party acknowledge that it was not a successful presidency, I just think a lot of the current narratives about Trump being done are wishcasting from people who hopes he goes away, which is no different than where we were in 2015
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Let him back if he can pay the $8 for a blue tick.
It’s always better when a proven idiot is allowed to keep showing themselves up.
I’d rather he had another go at twatter than a second term as Potus.
edited to add
I still clicked the link and voted No…
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Let him back. The guy’s a busted flush. Let him rant and rave into obscurity.
It will be interesting to see , now that he’s gone and got himself a brand new Special Counsel , just how much support he gets from the broader GOP (excluding his normal fanboys) and the right wing media , for the expected character assassination onslaught . And if his cries of victimhood resonate beyond his echo chamber.
Reports say he has 60% support to get back on Twitter. That’s thirteen points higher than his vote percentage. Means a shiteload of folks who didn’t vote for him would still enjoy it if his shenanigans were more accessible.
Alternatively, it could indicate that Twitter now skews much more heavily toward the right-wing nutjob demographic than the general population.
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Also seems plausible. People do enjoy watching a good train wreck, though. To the broader picture, is this Twitter’s new content moderation committee? That’s clever, and cheap, too.
Another aspect of this is it is probably a business strategy for Elon Musk. Twitter is in trouble. Get Trump back in the fold. It will generate more clicks, more views, more action, and presumably attract more advertising, subscribers and so on.
When Musk took over Twitter I said it will become more like Parler, and will be more of an outlet for right wing people, or conspiracy people, and so on.
I think the logical conclusion of all this is another platform emerging, one that will appeal more to moderate and left leaning people. Could be wrong in my instinct there, but Twitter seems increasingly hijacked by a right wing mob, and Trump coming back into the fold will accelerate that.
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Uproar? More like a shrug, sigh and eyeroll
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When’s he doing a vote for getting ISIS unbanned?
What happened to his Council?
Probs the wrong thread to ask…
It’s a council of 1, so nothing has happened to it.
At least not until he manages to kill of twitter completely
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Revelant to the discussion about the GOP investigation of Hunter over (baseless) allegations of self dealing by then Vice President Biden…
The presumed front runner for GOP nomination has now signed a deal with the government of Oman
So Trump hosted Kanye and Fuentes (a Holocuast denying white supremacist) at Mar-a-lago. Why pretend to be anything else at this point. Anyone that still supports this ogre is pure scum.
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