Does that reminder you of anyone from the 90’s? cough ginger cunt cough
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It makes me laugh to read all these comments about Thiago being a problem here.
Guy is a serial winner and has won multiple trophies all over the shop and last summer he joined a club who is currently heading for the UEFA Conference League FFS.
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Going by this logic, we should have kept Andy Carroll as well. He could score from corners and he could shoot from outside the box.
Pass judgment on Thiago after he plays in a normal functioning Liverpool side. This thing since December isn’t it.
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It’s alright to be disappointed, or even angry, with Thiago. We expected his class and experience to provide an edge, specially when other players weren’t exactly cutting it. Yes he didn’t have the stellar season we all hoped for and truth be told, he has been pretty disappointing.
However, pinning your hopes on Grujic is, umm, desperate.
To be honest with you in the period he has been fit for, no ones stats look particularly good to read.
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Yep I think people are looking at a symptom of a problem not the problem. In my eyes Thiago has been fine but he’s part of a whole and the whole isn’t at the same quality he is (a Ferrari or something graceful but powerful), at the moment we are like that cop car in the first Jumanji.
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To be honest if you had told me all the injuries we had and at those times and not shown me the results I would have put is about where we are, it was just so lopsided with the good start we made.
We should have however had enough to cope but it doesn’t surprise me that since Fabinho moved back we’ve seen a return of this, needed a player like him further up yesterday. Saying that it should have been academic regardless, you often say we should be 2-3 up yesterday and it means you’ve had good Chances, we had 2-3 sitters on top of that
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I don’t know how you could watch the game yesterday and come to the conclusion that chance creation was our problem.
We could have won that game 5 times over with the opportunities we had.
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Yeah, should’ve been 3-0 at HT. Ask our forwards why.
We played the best period in the game when Thiago was at LCM in that midfield two. Cutting Newcastle’s lines, making us keep control. Was in our top 3 performers looking at stats overall after the game.
Klopp made some really crap decisions with changing sides and making subs as well. You could see it on some of the faces. Hence why we couldn’t see it out, if we didn’t manage to kill the game with at least a second goal by then. We basically didn’t touch the ball in those final few minutes.
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Imagine Thiago in our team last year when our forwards used to score goals.
Would have been good
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Completely agree with this. He looked boss against Newcastle and we started to get into problems when he left the pitch, not before that (total and utter domination). It’s his first season and he has adapted very well to the pace and physicality of the PL imo. If our forwards were only performing half as well as him, we wouldn’t have any problem to book our top four spot.
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Sometimes people are too afraid of evolution, let alone change.
There was a Liverpool and Liverpool under Klopp before attacking full backs, a hard working midfield and a false 9. It also evolved during the time we were best with it. It didn’t happen all at once. Gini wasn’t the player he was in his first two seasons and from his third onwards up to now.
I believe when everyone is fit, we are still a highly competitive and winning (perhaps not serial, but here and there) team.
We didn’t buy Ozil and told him to run. This football Klopp is playing has started or wanted to evolve much earlier than last summer when we got Thiago, who is on paper a pretty disciplined player.
We tried to do it sistematically, some pieces haven’t quite worked out, some have. Fabinho has worked, Keita not so much, Ox another experiment which looks like has a lesser ceiling than we hoped.
Thiago is a better player than it was a quality deal (and it was, to some extent).
But I’m sure we get absolutely nowhere if we keep doing the same things like in 2016. We didn’t, because we changed and evolved. Some bigger things, some smaller things.
It can’t be all 200mph an hour when you get to a certain level. If you just keep that, you become a Leeds and you… remain a Leeds. Bob Paisley said it when he took over, that you can’t be a wild team at the top level, charging forward all the time. No shit, it’s called evolution. In any age.
But I understand that it’s in the nature of majority of fans that we mostly lean towards high energy, pace, more pace, more and more pace and the answer to everything is just more energy and more pace. It isn’t. There are also a lot of other tools and ingredients.
How well this works out? I have no clue. Maybe it’s another “Keita”. Maybe it’s better. Maybe even if he’s better than Keita, fans will not warm to him. I’m aware of this.
But one thing is for sure, I will keep thinking that we need something different (and acknowleding when it happens and we become a better/more complete side because of it). Just as Klopp thought/thinks and I think he’s doing a quality job with us.
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Leaving this here…
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I don’t know why but I read your posts, especially lines like these, in Klopp’s voice as if it’s him saying these 
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Thanks because now I just did as well…
I can’t unhear these imaginary Klopp voices in my head.
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I prefer this edit.
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In all seriousness it’s amazing how easy they make that look however that it’s a seriously hard thing to do once, let alone repeatedly over and over again
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The most gutting thing was we had a midfield of Thiago, Fabinho and Milner on Sunday that gave me a bit of hope.
Was happy not to have to the crushing defeat to put up with this week.
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