Those jammy fuckers down the M62

People like to make fun of McTominay but he was immense today - he always gives his everything to Man United.

I hope we haven’t repeated the trick from last season by giving ourselves a shot in the leg and their season a shot in the arm. They are well positioned to finish fifth and win FA Cup with all of their luck.

2 Likes

They just caught at the perfect time. I’d be surprised to see them this lucky against City.
Just get 3 points at OT and tonight will be forgotten.

2 Likes

We won 7-0 last year I’m not sure how this is really comparable.

2 Likes

Not the first time I said that and in reality did happen: Its ok let them win and their fans will be jerking themselves over and thinking they are on the ascension only to go on a losing run again. That will make it so much more painful to them.

I’m not going say a word about them until we actually beat them.

2 Likes

Yeah win our remaining 10 league games then we can laugh at them, regardless.

1 Like

The interesting and unflattering resume of one Gareth Southgate - Hopefully the next manager at Old Toilet :0)

Gareth Southgate in the Premier League: 24 damning statistics which Manchester United should see

Story by Matt Stead

Gareth Southgate is the favourite to replace Erik ten Hag as Manchester United manager this summer and his Premier League stats are worth taking a look at.

Who will be the next manager of Manchester United?
Apparently Southgate, the choice of many a former and current player. But his stats as a Premier League manager make for difficult reading.

Stats

  • Gareth Southgate has a 25.4% win percentage as a Premier League manager, worse than Walter Mazzarri (28.9%), Roy Keane (28.3%), Dave Jones (27.9%), Carlos Carvalhal (27.7%), Bryan Robson (26.7%), Danny Wilson (26.6%), Lennie Lawrence (26.2%) and Patrick Vieira (25.5%).

  • The only current Premier League managers with a lower career win percentage in the top flight are Rob Edwards (17.2%) and Vincent Kompany (13.8%).

  • Southgate has a Premier League goals-per-game ratio of 1.01 (115 scored in 114 games), worse than Steve Kean (1.22), Nigel Pearson (1.18), Ian Branfoot (1.16), John Deehan (1.13), Alex McLeish (1.05), Graham Taylor (1.03) and Dave Bassett (1.02).

  • Southgate has the same Premier League points-per-game record (1.05) as Paul Lambert, Gus Poyet and John Lyall.

  • Out of the 121 managers who have been in charge of 50 or more games, he ranks 100th for PPG, below Colin Todd (1.07) and Owen Coyle (1.06).

  • Out of the 81 managers who have been in charge of 100 or more games, he ranks 71st; every manager below him is either out of work or retired besides Charlotte FC head coach Dean Smith.

  • Southgate has not managed at club level in 14 and a half years, his last and only such reign ending in being sacked by Championship Middlesbrough a couple of months after relegation.

  • Southgate has won seven of his 57 away games as a Premier League manager.

  • Southgate has won two of his last 26 games as a Premier League manager.

  • Southgate’s last top-flight win came against Phil Brown – one of the worst Premier League managers ever

  • Brown is one of only two managers Southgate has beaten in the Premier League who remains in work (at Kidderminster); West Ham boss David Moyes is the other.

  • Only 11 teams have ever scored fewer goals in a Premier League season than the 28 Southgate’s Middlesbrough managed in their 2008/09 relegation campaign.

  • Southgate is one of 12 coaches to be named Premier League Manager of the Month in the same season as they were ultimately relegated.

  • He has completed Premier League doubles over four teams (Paul Jewell’s Wigan in 2006/07, then Lawrie Sanchez and Roy Hodgson’s Fulham, Harry Redknapp’s Portsmouth Jewell’s Derby, all in 2007/08).

  • In a Premier League table of results during Southgate’s entire three seasons as a top-flight manager, no ever-present team in that time accrued fewer points than his Middlesbrough (120), and only Wigan (105 v 115) scored fewer goals.

Streaks

  • Southgate’s longest Premier League winning streak is three games (3-1 v Sheffield United, 1-3 v Charlton, 5-1 v Bolton in January 2007).

  • His longest Premier League losing streak is four games (2-0 v Everton, 3-1 v Manchester City, 0-2 v Chelsea, 4-1 v Manchester United between September and October 2007).

  • His longest Premier League unbeaten streak is five games (twice: 1-1 v Liverpool, 1-1 v Blackburn, 1-0 v Wigan, 1-1 v Newcastle and 1-0 v Fulham between January and February 2008; then 1-1 v Blackburn, 2-0 v Manchester City, 1-1 v West Ham, 1-2 v Aston Villa and 1-1 v Everton between October and November 2008).

  • His longest Premier League clean sheet streak is two games (three times: 1-0 v West Ham and 0-0 v Liverpool in November 2006; then 2-0 v Charlton and 0-0 v Everton in December 2006; then 0-0 v Wigan and 2-0 v Liverpool in February 2009).

Transfers

  • Southgate’s record signing remains Afonso Alves, on whom Middlesbrough spent £12.5m for a return of 13 goals in 49 games and £7m from Al-Sadd 18 months later.

  • He remains the last manager to spend money to sign Jason Euell.

  • He remains the last manager to play Marlon King and Abel Xavier in the Premier League.

  • He spent £11.2m on Mido, Marvin Emnes, Jeremie Aliadiere and their combined 13 goals in 98 Premier League games.

  • He spent £11.2m on Mido, Marvin Emnes, Jeremie Aliadiere and their combined 13 goals in 98 Premier League games.

  • Southgate’s career spend of £53.5m is less than Manchester United have spent on Mason Mount, Bruno Fernandes, Angel Di Maria, Casemiro, Rasmus Hojlund, Jadon Sancho, Romelu Lukaku, Harry Maguire, Antony and Paul Pogba.

Talk of scraping the bottom of the barrell.

Won’t even last one season.

1 Like

I laughed when I saw the headline. A match made for the netherworld. A union of the turds.
Then as I started reading the bullshit sprouted by their supposed luminaries, I rolled all over, unable to continue further.

2 Likes

Hi buddy :wave:. Haven’t seen you in a while. Hope things are well.

It’s a good deal in all fairness though. Malaysia has quite a lot of United fans.

Do people actually go oh my club has a sponsor with them I will use that product.

With airlines it’s likely oh that’s the cheapest flight.

3 Likes

It’s about branding and visibility. It’s a good deal for both the entities.

You said they had a fan base in Malaysia, I made the point did that actually matter.

Like Expedia on our shirts yes it gets the brand out. I don’t think it really matters if it was Qatar or China or anyone else frankly.

Whilst you’re right that these sponsorships are about brand visibility and reach, Matty’s point is still valid.

It’s not as if I’ve switched from real ale to Carlsberg just because the latter are sponsoring my favourite team, for example.

1 Like

So you’re saying you have switched to Carlsberg just not because of the sponsorship :scream::face_vomiting:

No, but I do go oh a rival club has a sponsor with x so I will avoid that company

I rather like Carlsberg actually. Beats Miller Lite.

No offense, but Miller Lite tastes like horse piss.

Although it does taste better than Bud Light which tastes like watered down horse piss

2 Likes

Ciders and Ales are fine. Maybe Pilsners too at a pinch but Lagers have become tasteless over the last 10 odd years (across all brands)