UK Politics Thread (Part 1)

You realise you’ve just called me a wanker? Just wanted to be clear on this.

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Not just you, quite a few of us. This must be how Labour are hoping to reach out to many of its core vote who voted for Brexit as well.

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Scum I think is the common vernacular? Or is scum just reserved for Conservative voters and wankers for BREXIT voters? So difficult to know.

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Scum, eh?

With that kind of flattery, it’s sooo tempting.

I’m a floating voter, just takes that extra to move me from blue to red.

The extra being the party leader sacking the person in question instantly. But he didn’t because he’s more vanilla than shit icecream.

Now I think about it, currently, Labour are being managed by Ole.

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lets be honest here…who hasnt had a quick shuffle?..youd be weirder if you never…

Well, to be honest I was more thinking about your rabid, active, brexiteer than ordinary people voting for it.

But let’s move this towards what I do think of people who voted for Brexit. I obviously feel very sorry for ordinary people who voted for Brexit because they were sold a lie. Their disillusionment and desperation was ruthlessly exploited, and their feelings of despondency was stoked into racism and xenophobia. Their as much victims in this as anyone else.

I also have problem with some Brexit voters, which is that your are never going to admit you made a mistake. You are never going to take responsibility for the shitshow you’ve helped unleash.

And here we are in October 2021. Today in the Big Brexit hoose, prime minister Boris Johnson has called in the army to deliver petrol.

The fucking army. Delivering petrol.

And the worst of it is the sentiment you hear now from so many Brexit voters that well, Brexit would have been fine if they’d done it the way I think it should have been done. It’s just that it was implemented by idiots.

You voted for it to be implemented by idiots. That was the choice on the table. There was no option for a sensible Brexit delivered by competent people. We’ve just had 18 months of these people showing enough callous disregard for life and flair for profiteering, to leave us with a 150,000 pandemic death toll. These are the people you put in charge of delivering Brexit.

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Translation.

‘I’m fine voting for a party that is plunging children into abject poverty daily, that think it’s fine to suck billions out of the public purse under cover of a global health crisis, and are lead by a man who is a proven congenital liar and possibly the worse Prime Minister the country has ever had, because the Labour leader is a bit vanilla’

Do you want a vanilla ice cream or this shit flavoured one? Hmmm. Let me have a think.

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You’re in fine form this morning, @Mascot !

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My concern with the pro-Brexit vote was brilliantly summed up by this.

For me the selling class, who relied on and flaunted “facts” and “figures” were selling from an almost completely ignorant base and to them all I can say is, “well, here we all are…” And, yes, sadly it is “we”.

As to the majority of the “ordinary” people that voted for it, it is a sad state of affairs across the board. It obviously raises the question as to why? I felt that it was a “let’s roll the dice and see what we get” sort of a decision. It speaks to the failure of multiple governments to address the glaring inequalities that exist across the UK and, dare I say it, the failure of Labour to provide a viable vision that people could get behind - an alternative to the xenophobic and racist peddling of the other camp. The sitting on the fence by Corbyn (and in large parts of the Conservatives) suggested a cross party pervading acknowledgement of those (previous governmental) failures and so by remaining passive, it allowed fringe elements to dictate national policy,

p.s. as to why this particular form of the Brexit train wreck we are seeing, I’m waiting for the "well it would have been just fine but for COVID, but just wait, this time next year, we’ll all be millionaires!

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Still with the brexit only happened because so many people are either thick or gullible bollocks.

If that’s the lie you need to tell yourselves, you’re never going to understand the majority who voted for it nor reconcile yourselves with the decision itself.

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Completely this. A huge problem remain had was going to communities that had been crushed by thirty years of neo-liberalism and telling them it would be worse if we left the EU. Worse than this? How?

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Good job I don’t think that then. Swap ‘thick and gullible’ with ‘broken and vulnerable’ and we’re probably closer to the truth.

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So, I’m still trawling through the archives, and it’s amusing to see this, particularly in the light of the Labour conference. Do you still think that way?

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To be fair to @Mascot you can lie to people who are broken and vulnerable, and they would be more likely to fall for it.

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I think that’s fine actually. Do you think you have to be thick to get sold a lie?

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Lots of very intelligent people are sold lies all the time.

Nope. Thick or gullible is what I interpreted, fairly, your comment to mean.

But you ignored the clarification?