Doubt many would have thought about that until now…
Pretty sure staff at the Home Office would have. They can put into place processess to alleviate that risk and may have been doing so behind the scenes before anything could get announced. Certainly no need for the threat to be exaggerated or misrepresented by some of those on social media.
Funnily enough the bit i remember most from Scarface is the intro where it talks about Cuba sending all the crooks to the US…
I was specifically referencing the supposed bad actors in this scenario.
What happens to the government now then if Russian oligarchs have had their assets frozen? I presume that means the Tory party are now officially unable to perform their duties ( although that’s been known for a while, without needing the oligarchs)
They have thoroughly investigated themselves, found no evidence of impropriety, and the matter is now closed.
I should have guessed that, was it done by the newly appointed Lord Abramovich of Chelsea ?
Priti Patel should cite Priti Patel as an example of why refugees should not be allowed in.
Priti Patel should cite Priti Patel as an example of why refugees should not be allowed in.
Except I don’t think her family were refugees but came here as economic migrants before Idi Amin came to power in Uganda.
Priti Patel should use Priti Patel as an example of why economic migrants should not be allowed in.
Fuck it - Priti Patel should volunteer for the front line in Kiev.
Timely article.
‘Boris’ is not a great name for a Russian asset?
Putin has already deployed a chemical weapon. In Salisbury
Boris Johnson has grave questions to answer about the Skripal case
Ukraine war: West made terrible mistake after Crimea - PM
Boris Johnson says the West allowed President Putin to "get away" with annexing the peninsula in 2014.
For Johnson, whose party is closely tied to Russia, and who is personally closely tied to Russia, and who had made some very questionable comments about blame for Crimea, and all since 2014, it’s such a peculiar read. Hiding in plain sight perhaps?
You weren’t countering inaccuracies. Let it go man.
Sigh. Here’s the conversation:
The irony being that Trump and Brexit would probably have never happened without the help of Russia , and social media. It beats the shit out of me how people could be so fucking stupid to not see through it all.
For people to be that susceptible to this nonsense , they have to have those biases in the first place. They are then skilfully exploited but I don’t think we should spend too much time feeling sorry for them.
In your opinion. I can’t comment on Trump but Euroscepticism predates all that by decades.
Euroscepticism was largely the preserve of a minority within the country , and an even smaller one within the Conservative Party for decades . It wasn’t until the ERG was given wings by Cameron’s decision to hold a referendum that they were able to marshall enough support to actually make Brexit plausible.
[A decision made in the run up to the 2015 GE]
Promising a referendum on European Union membership was a vote winner for a reason.
[It won the 2015 GE for the Conservatives]
To guarantee Cameron’s survival amongst the Tory right maybe. I don’t remember too many others thinking it was such a great idea at the time.
[It being felt that Cameron had to give the Eurosceptic side of the party the offer of a referendum on the EU in the 2015 GE manifesto in order to prevent internal division]
It secured a general election victory.
[The 2015 GE when Cameron was up against Milliband]
Against Jeremy Corbyn. And with a reduced majority.
[This wasn’t Cameron. This was May up against Corbyn in 2017, after the EU referendum had already happened]
Maybe we should take this to a different thread but safe to say that when people still claim Brexit only happened because stupid people were gullible or brainwashed, that there’s been little effort to actually understand it.
Wrong. Against Milliband with an outright majority.
[The 2015 GE]
We were talking about what happened after Cameron announced the referendum in 2016. The next election was in 2017. May beat Corbyn.
Can’t have been. ERG had already got what they wanted by then; see comment that initiated the exchange “It wasn’t until the ERG was given wings by Cameron’s decision to hold a referendum that they were able to marshall enough support to actually make Brexit plausible”, this can only relate to the run up to the 2015 GE.
No, we weren’t. We were talking about the manifesto pledge ahead of the 2015 GE.
You might have been , I was talking about the referendum announcement.
Which was pledged in the 2015 GE conservative manifesto. It cannot have secured support after it had already been held - past consideration is no consideration.
Not entirely sure why I’m shown to have “liked” this post, nor why I’m unable to change it. As per my follow up response, promising a referendum on EU membership secured Cameron the GE 2015 election victory. It’s why we had the referendum in 2016. Which resulted in the single biggest democratic vote in UK history.
We were obviously talking about different things ; you were referencing his manifesto pledge , I was talking about the announcement. Regardless , you still maintain that pledge won the 2015 election for Cameron , and I would still beg to differ. Cameron made that pledge to see off a challenge from the Tory right. The election he subsequently won had more to do with Labour parachuting in an uncharismatic , and frankly unelectable, leftist leader in Ed Milliband and the collapse of the Lib Dems …
“Cameron made that pledge to see off a challenge from the Tory right.” (quite, in the run up to the 2015 GE)
Yeah, because the largest turnout in UK political history with 17.5m people voting to leave the EU the very next year doesn’t suggest it would have been a factor… It was that pledge that was, as you put it That came ahead of the 2015 GE. The 2017 GE took place AFTER the EU referendum had already happened.
Yeah , and in that election May won with a reduced majority , like I originally said.
She wasn’t elected on the promise of holding a referendum on membership of the EU though, that was 2 years earlier The 2017 GE returned 80% vote in favour of parties promising to implement that referendum result.
They could hardly say they were just going to ignore ‘the voice of the people’ could they ?
To back up a bit , your contention was that the referendum was a winning electoral asset for the Tories. In both 2015 and 2017 , I’ve said why I think it wasn’t. (Labour’s shit candidates basically.)
Going further back , my original argument was that without Russian disinformation (this is the Russia thread after all) and support for the Leave Campaign , Brexit might never have even been achieved.
This historic landslide vote that you are touting was actually nothing of the sort.
"As of March 2022, 49 percent of people in Great Britain thought that it was wrong to leave the European Union, compared with 39 percent who thought it was the right decision. " Brexit poll 2024 | Statista
I had left it but given it was revisited I ought to further point out that I never touted the EU referendum result as a “historic landslide”…
Pete Kennedy
The peer is Lord Young (Labour), the lady chastising him is Lady Bloomfield.
This made me laugh…
Recreational Dentist
Saudi Arabia: Johnson says he raised human rights in energy talks
Boris Johnson's visit aims to build a coalition against President Putin, and secure energy supplies.
“going cap in hand from dictator to dictator is not an energy strategy”
Keir Starmer. I don’t think it can be put any better than that.
Love to know his immediate alternative.
Think Labour were advocating a stronger push towards developing more green energy capacity, along with a nationwide investment into improving insulation. It’s not immediate, but there is no option that is. Not even Middle Eastern oil and gas.
Think Labour were advocating a stronger push towards developing more green energy capacity, along with a nationwide investment into improving insulation. It’s not immediate, but there is no option that is. Not even Middle Eastern oil and gas.
So the same as Conservative policy? The problem is that there is no immediate viable alternative to energy security that isn’t unpalatable to varying degrees. On the whole, petrostates are dominated by cuntish regimes.