UK Politics Thread (Part 1)

Kristian Guru Murthy I really like.

Surprised you mentioned a BBC Reporter, Laura Kuenssberg is a fucking travesty, she is basically hotlined to Cummings.

I will follow Lewis and see what he says.

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Yeahā€¦ you can say that againā€¦
Too many things on the go at the same-timeā€¦ Well thatā€™s my excuse and iā€™m sticking to itā€¦!
Thanks Againā€¦

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Indeed, he has created this horrible element of proper hard line socialists who are just as bad as right wing torys.

He also refused to take a stance on Brexit knowing it would cause his defeat because fundementally he wants out of Europe.

I expect Cummings has already drafted the ā€˜right to workā€™ legislation to introduce once Brexit has come to a terminus.

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Agree with you on Kuenssberg. What I would say is that itā€™s very difficult to be a reporter with access to inner government circles without then appearing to simply be a mouthpiece for them. Of course youā€™re going to report what your sources have said to youā€¦itā€™s what you then do with that which is important. You need to counterbalance it with an opposing view and I think this is where she often comes up short.

Andrew Neil, now heā€™s leaving the BBC, is quite good to follow. Unleashed.

He is typically attacked for having left leaning views, but I find him factual. Although might not be everyones taste :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: @Kopstar

Take this thread on poverty and free school meals:
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1319591679893082113

Just the facts laid out in 20 tweets or so. (must click show thread to see them all)

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A few things really struck me yesterday and this morning and have really tarnished my view of Corby to be honest. I liked some of the things heā€™s said in the past and his ability to get people that would normally be ignorant of politics has been impressive. I could even understand the difficulty he faced with the Brexit debate.

What I really struggled with is te report is pretty clear that thereā€™s big problem, I saw an interview with Luciana Berger, then there were apparently 100ā€™s of incidents that were investigated and the final note is that Starmer spoke to him before the report was released. That for me was the final nail.

Youā€™ve got a whole team doing that at the FT
https://twitter.com/theboysmithy
https://twitter.com/digitalcampbell
https://twitter.com/C_BruceLockhart
https://twitter.com/martinstabe

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Tell me about it

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yeah. Sad to say I had some sympathy for him before yesterday. I could even excuse the poor leadership qualities. Not so now.

Perhaps Epsom red from TIA had some decent points after all?

Youā€™ve gone too far this time, mate!

Iā€™m sorry to again repeat what I said in ā€œthe other placeā€ but Corbyn just isnā€™t smart enough to be the leader of a major political party. Iā€™m not attacking his political views or principles, not at all, there actually is scope for those views to play an influential role in British politics. Heā€™s just not smart enough to be the one driving that movement.

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Well I was referring to particular comments he made as, from memory his partner actually worked within the Labour party for a while.

His other views were several country miles off base I agree.

RE Corbynā€™s intelligence. That is probably right but I honestly donā€™t hold that against him. He was voted into that position. What I do really object to is the selfish pig headedness of ignoring the discussion he had with Starmer in some pathetic self defense that simply didnā€™t wash. Completely ignoring the bigger picture is just inexcusable in my book, especially when heā€™s tried to make it ā€œnot my faultā€.

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He never was politically savvy, I think we could all agree that thatā€™s what he should have done. Climb down, be repentant and donā€™t nail your trousers to the mast (then you canā€™t climb down). Reminds me of Suarez / Evra.

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It just dawned on me that here is a guy that preaches policies about the greater good for ā€œthe peopleā€ but when really boils down to it he cant deliver on that very point.

Most politicians are to some degree narcissists, massive fragile egos. We just notice the irony more in left wing politicians.

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irony is completely right. Compare Trump to Corbyn. The two are miles apart in many ways.

I guess you expect it of Trump / Boris / Gove / Rees-Mogg, IDs etc. but itā€™s quite a shocker from Corbyn, almost to the point on whether you actually actually wonder if he actually believes what he preaches.

If you look back at his history as an MP he has never put the interests of the party and the country before his own. I detest the man. I firmly believe that but for him we would never have had a leave vote and we would now have a Labour government.

As far as I am concerned, he can take his principles and go to hell.

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I honestly couldnā€™t say but my point is that here is a person whoā€™s whole political views are based on equality and closing the gap between the rich and the poor. And when given an opportunity to actually deliver on that he prefers to take another stance. A stance thatā€™s not about equality and not delivering a greater good.

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Not only that but heā€™s chosen this particular hill to die on. What the fuck?

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