UK Politics Thread (Part 1)

Can I ask, @Klopptimist , if there was a GE held tomorrow, would you vote Boris back in?

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ā€¦ crows and crowing?

Perhaps they are dead due to covid?

There are still old people alive even after covid. Also thereā€™s noting quite the same as a picture on a piece of paper.

I just discovered that Johnson visited my hometown last week to ā€˜rally the troopsā€™.

This morningā€™s results showed the Tories had crashed from first place to fourth in the constituency.

Well done Boris ! :laughing:

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Would depend what Labour did / said. But if it were today with no prep nor announcements. Yes. A Lib-Dem vote is wasted in my area and I have no faith in the current Labour party. At least the Conservatives have proven that they can just about keep the lights on. Just. Cue the laughs and scorn from the left and the silence from those who wonā€™t admit to being right wing on a Liverpool forum. Like voting Trump because you couldnā€™t stand HC. If you have to shoot yourself in the foot, you choose your least fav. But Iā€™ll always vote, if you donā€™t you really shouldnā€™t complain.

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Here is the front page of the Daily Express this morning.

https://twitter.com/daily_express/status/1522683601913057282?s=21

The Tories lost nearly 400 seats.

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170,000 people dead
Democracy in tatters
And the lights only stay on if you can afford them to.

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I was just looking at the headlines across the UK media. What a fucking shambles.

The S*n and Failā€™s headlines were actually about Starmerā€™s beer. The mirror clearly couldnā€™t even be bothered with covering the elections and went with the Sussexes not being invited onto the Royal balcony. What in the absolute fuck?!

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I may regret asking this, but Iā€™m genuinely interested; in what way are Labour currently worse than the tories?

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Going to see Dr Strange in the Multiverse of Madness tonight, Iā€™ll let you know how a Labour government got on with COVID, rampant inflation and Russia.

If I give you the long honest answer, the can of worms just opens again. Iā€™m a capitalist so voting socialist would be a little tricky. I get bored with being the pantomime villain on here at times. Iā€™ll give you a slightly more simple reason. Kier Starmer is a lifelong Arsenal fan, he has a season ticket at the Emirates.

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Would you prefer everybody to have free services paid for by the community? Isnā€™t that the socialist dream? All working for the common good? A utopian society of Roddenberry esq proportions and design? Sign me up. We just all need to contribute the sameā€¦

Are the newspaper readers split on tribal lines? I know BBC has long since pulled its bar down, but even their headlines saying Tory loss.

PS. The Telegraph headline is a gem :laughing:

But is the Labour party really socialist? Are they going to nationalise the entire UK economy? Plenty of capitalists do well in scandinavian countries which have policies broadly in line with Labourā€™s.

It might be that you are treated like a pantomime character because you act like one. I was hoping for a sensible explanation as to how the Labour party could be worse than the Tories, and you just make a glib comment about Starmerā€™s football team.

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Pretty much. Most of the big ones are just propaganda comics for their rich owners. I hadnā€™t really realised just how bad they were until I moved to Germany and found papers thst have a political stance that I donā€™t agree with but that are filled with opinion rather than lies.

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I am a bit confused, did he really admit that the borders were designed to keep SF out of power??? Wow

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Iā€™m not really an expert on Northern Irish politics, but I think everyoneā€™s eyeā€™s were open about it. The nature of the Good Friday agreement was that it would create a power sharing government, neither Sinn Fein or the Unionists could take control and there would have to be cooperation.

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He said that NI was created (in 1922) to prevent a nationalist majority. Thst is why only 6 of Ulsterā€™s 9 counties were included in Northern Ireland.

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