UK Politics Thread (Part 1)

https://mobile.twitter.com/MrMichaelSpicer/status/1317016367191756800

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Very interesting speech by John Major. One of the decent politicians in that party.

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Something kicked off in the House of Lords today?

Oh wow

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Kilclooney asked who would become V-P if ‘the Indian’ became President.
Ah - I see you found it.

My Irish contacts are rather amused that he is just now being revealed as a troglodyte, having been allowed to say similar about Varadkar.

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What a racist turd. Ulster Unionist? There are suggestions that the Lord Speaker has the power to expel him but I’ve got no idea on the rules or the process. Probably involves 300 year old swords, cushions and a thumbs up from the Queen.

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I vaguely recall him say something similarly terrible about an English cricketer, which I missed at the time but saw at the time of the Varadkar comments.

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An English cricketer?! This is the real outrage!

First time this guy’s come across my radar, I think. Looks certain that I’ll be filing him under “c.nt”.

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I had to google it, because you know, cricket and life is too short, etc. Anyway, it was about someone named Moeen Ali

He said:

“Times have changed! The England team now needs non English people in order to win Test Games”. When it was pointed out that Ali was born in Britain, Kilclooney responded,

“Moeen Ali is proud to be British but racially he is not English. There is a difference between being English and being British!!”,

and

“A Chinese born in England is Chinese and not English!”

Now, I think there is a truth in there somewhere, but as far as I know, most sports are played by nations organized by citizenship rather than ethnicity, so the ethnicity ‘English’ is not relevant…and suggesting it is, is odious.

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Shit, I missed these and I follow cricket fairly closely. What a scumbag.

The English (and Welsh) cricket team has a very long history of being a mix of races and nationalities, eg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranjitsinhji

We’ve never really had a period after the 19th century where we’ve won anything with only “English” players.

For some reason though I doubt he’d take issue with the likes of Tony Greig, Robin Smith, Alan Lamb, Graeme Hick etc.

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How low can you go?

That is simply disgusting. There’s a real problem if people aren’t exposed and castigated for stuff like this. Nearly said castrated.

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In other news Boris’ internal market bill was voted down in the Lords last night.

Pressure building now.

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The government has suffered a heavy defeat in the House of Lords over its controversial Brexit legislation.

The Internal Market Bill contains measures that overrule parts of the UK’s Brexit agreement with the EU.

Peers voted overwhelmingly to remove a section of the bill that would allow ministers to break international law - by 433 votes to 165…

…Former Conservative Party leader Lord Howard was among 44 Conservative peers who voted against the government on Monday night.

He led the calls for the prime minister to “think again” and remove the contentious parts of the UK Internal Market Bill, warning that the government was using the language of “law breakers” everywhere.

So, the Lords send a clear message of condemnation to the government with regards to its intention to renege on a treaty, only approved by Parliament at the start of this year, and break international law.

And the government’s response:

The government said it would reinstate the clauses when the bill returns to the House of Commons next month.

How to become international pariahs in one easy step.

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I think he has also made comments about two high profile black footballers in the same vein. One was Ian Wright, and i can’t remember the second one. Laughably claiming that only the British people can decide if they were British.

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I for a second thought you were referring to Claire Fox, who was defending the Internal Markets Bill but somehow voted against it.

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:rofl:
FIX! We should send the lawyers in to make sure only legal votes are counted. Any decent lawyers in the House of Lords? :wink:

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Promote Raab?

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The idea of a Universal Basic Income was discussed a little bit in our previous home on TIA, so thought this may be of interest to some. I’ve just seen that a select committee is having a look at this tomorrow.

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The Coronavirus pandemic was the perfect opportunity to launch UBI; instead of his furlough scheme, the Chancellor should have implemented UBI, set at the national living wage, for all adults aged 18 and over.

No more benefits; no more bailouts.

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This Lucy Allan MP ?

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