And what about my earlier example of somebody stealing off me personally? Should I have had a little chat? Recommended some type of support group? Understood it wasn’t their fault?
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Not getting emotional doesnt mean you can’t sack them if that is the most appropriate action.
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That entails instant dismissal, assuming clear evidence. You just sack them on the spot, and the frustration gets vented through that act. Slower and less intense.
Attempting to conflate anomaly with normality only confuses the issue; rarely do people get caught stealing from their employer, but almost everyday there can be a difference in understanding an approach or a conflict in performing obligations or instructions. Its this that Patel is up for, not for an isolated incident of responding to gross misconduct.
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Just makes me wonder if Priti Patel was a Labour MP how many here would be taking this stance, there would be a complete turn around about stuffy Westminster civil servants not liking being told what to do by an Asian female Labour MP, but because she is a Tory then she is a cunt and she is in the wrong and that is all
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Right on Odin!
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You’ll never get a job at the Home Office using that kind of language 
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On what grounds do you base that on? Much of the discourse on this and the old TIA politics thread were pretty critical of Labour MPs to suggest they wouldn’t get a free pass.
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Political bias on here /Tia is always one sided
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Thank God for that, I work for another department and it’ll never change whoever is in power …and Westminster civil servants have no right to complain about the very things that they pretty much do to thousands of AO’s and EO’s around the country
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In claiming bias you’ve displayed bias that the whole forum thinks in the same way?!
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Not all the forum, but a significant percentage in my mind that seems left leaning
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Its obviously not one sided. @Kopstar was criticising Brown yesterday for the same thing.
A number of us have criticised figures from the Labour Party on a number of issues, despite identifying as left of centre politically.
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From what I seem to recall kopstar was stating that there wasn’t as much fuss as this when it was Gordon Brown doing the bullying and he was right
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Ok yep, Ive seen that, left leaning, more like falling over. Far left is in vogue. I think another aspect of the point you made bubbles in the underside of this, there may have been a focus on her gender and ethnicity in terms of her continuing in office. In that, had she had to go, it could have ignited another equality issue.
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Gordon Brown’s bullying also involved numerous occasions of actual physical assault, as well as belittling and shouting in people’s faces.
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If Priti Patel was a Labour minister and this happened, people would have been saying that the civil service is stuck in the past where they still think Britain has an empire etc etc and that they couldn’t cope with the fact that an Asian female minister was laying down her authority of how she wanted things to be done, and they would have been siding with Priti Patel , but she is a Tory and so must be in the wrong…but let’s not kid ourselves here …the knives are out for Priti Patel because she is even worse than just be a Tory…she was a prominent Brexit supporting Tory and that makes her even worse to many.
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You asking if all should be left leaning?
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Really, do you have any details?
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Yes, I linked to reports from the Independent previously of him shaking people by the lapels and even tipping a lady civil servant out of her chair.
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