UK Politics Thread (Part 5)

Fucking hell, mate…you’re better than this.

Look at those spikes, they’re as plain as day!!

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*an oldie, but still a goodie…

This is quite literally all you do , post after post , entire pages of text devoted to you convincing yourself just how clever you are. Why don’t you do us all a favour and just give it a fucking rest , eh ?

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This thread has basically been made unusable by him, much like a certain someone on the US politics thread until he was rightly hounded out. There also used to be an Elon Musk-worshipper here who has seemingly left (thank goodness!)

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So you’re saying that people of a certain political ilk stand on their heads.

Understood.

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Mad how people have different opinions/perspectives isn’t it, the ignorant cunts.

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I am ALL for perspectives and opinions. Just no time for bad-faith posters.

Always been a supporter of yours @jaffod

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Honest question. Where is the line? I posted that chart. Then I’m told you can read it in all sorts of different ways depending on your perspective.

Sorry but that sounds off to me.

I saw nothing wrong with your post at all. I totally got your humour.

It’s, for example, when people are respectfully engaged and, when proven to be telling porkies to back up their viewpoints, they then jump off to some other ridiculous tangent that had nothing to do with what they were pulled up on. And never take accountability.

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I appreciate that, and I have no beef with you whatsoever.

However, when you post about people being ‘rightly hounded out’, claim threads are unusable because of someone stating their opinion, express joy because someone else you disagreed with has seemingly left and like/respond to a post where someone is being told to ‘give it a fucking rest’ it smacks of intolerance to me. You’re far from alone in that on here btw.
Surely a forum is for discussion with people who hold different opinions to your own, unless you just want an echo-chamber?

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I think the posters here who experienced what drivel “Toro” posted on the “Drill baby Drill” thread will know what I am talking about.

In no way shape or form am I denigrating any sort of civil discourse.

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Fair enough. It’s not a thread I ever visited so wouldn’t know.

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Lucky you!

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Opinions are not sacred, and they can be wrong. When we start to value opinions over the actual evidence and data on an issue, then we’re in trouble.

I’ve pretty much given up on trying to have a discussion with Reform voters, largely because they believe things that are simply untrue, and tjey totally unwilling to accept that they might be mistaken.

You can talk about how people are entitled to their own opinions, but it’s when they think there are entitled to their own facts that it tends to kick off.

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7 paragraphs about how unfair everyone is in the way they participate in discussions, for 4 consecutive posts, and not a single sentence actually responding to multiple requests to elaborate on the point he thinks he’s making. Its a new definition for the term Lynchian

For those who missed it the discussion was whether a degree still holds a premium over not having one in the job market and in earning potential. Even though it absolutely does that is obviously not a guarantee of employment. Some grads will still be unemployed and in a bad economy that number will increase. But the relevant consideration is how does that compare to non-degree holders. An article that focuses on grad unemployment without any comparison to non-grad levels says nothing about the discussion being had. So what was the intended point of posting the article? Is there some second order consideration I missed? I guess we’ll never know

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Hey but when you try saying that about football…

Suddenly it ain’t just Reform voters who do that anymore…

My intolerance isn’t towards others’ opinions , rather it’s for the constant nit-picking and parsing of sentences looking for that gotcha moment , when in reality it’s simply a distraction technique to avoid the actual crux of an argument that he can’t defend . And it’s relentless and yes he should give it a fucking rest.

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You are tedious at times.
The graph (not a chart) predicts Net Migration could become a negative by 2026.
I didn’t at any point suggest it changes what it says, I said it could be interpreted differently depending on Political view.

I guess this is another example of your LW approach, where you post a graph, act as if it supports your point of view in some way without actually explaining why.

So let’s try this out, from your political view what is this graph showing us and how does it support or dismiss a point of view you have not informed us about.

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Huh, I have tried numerous times to shut down a poster and not engage in a topic where I never formed an opinion or presented it.
I will be honest I made a mistake, I should have stayed out of their debate. As you will see I have tried to row back on this. I have been fair in offering the poster the chance to discuss this by PM - saving you entire pages of text where I try and convince myself that I am a clever fucker.

Without trying to come across a clever, there is an option where you can just block me. Give it a try

What coming from someone who posts Facebook videos from a biased source, with only 30k viewers and then tell us that they are great journalists who go the extra yard to source their facts, going places other Journalists are afraid to go.
Sorry, if by questioning this I have made the thread unusable.