UK Politics Thread (Part 5)

Well not exactly. Or seemingly limited control or desire to control it.

Total immigrants in hasn´t fallen that much really or is still a high number.Brits out has increased quite a lot.

I just enabled notifications on the Discourse app.

“Limiescouse replied to your post: a man in a suit and a tie saying ‘the fuck did I do?’”

HAHAHAHA

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I hadn’t scrutinised the numbers but not according to the ONS which was behind the original chart

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This dropped yesterday. I bet @redfanman was going to post it

https://www.ft.com/content/7131f9e0-46b5-4a31-90f2-277ee2337f09?syn-25a6b1a6=1

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Loves his 10-year gilt yields, that bloke.

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Better than the yield you’ll be getting in a minute I suspect.

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Did the article give a demographic breakdown at all (age, employment status etc). I only gave the summary a glance the other day.

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It’s pretty detailed having just looked again. ONS do good work to be fair.

About 50% that left the UK were graduates on study visas.

Stars for those immigrating were in the table below

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Are there figures for emigration as well? I would imagine that a fair few of British migrants are people moving abroad to retire.

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Facebook post removed:
Seems to be some doubt as to the veracity of this video… While not earth shattering in any factual grey area of its originality, this can sometimes happen when a posting is done in good faith…
Apologies for this…

There are

Here’s the report

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That’s a video of a man in America losing his shit because he couldn’t return a videogame. In 2018.

Nothing to do with immigrants. Not sure if you are posting to highlight immigrants getting free PlayStations or people gullible enough to believe immigrants get free PlayStations

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For sure they ll revise the figures up as they always do.

Not that it matters. Theyre already high

You never suggested it was policy when you posted the Graph. Unless I missed something?

I can. Only the other day it was suggested Net Migration could be a negative next year. So, ignoring the increase for what ever reason, the end result is that Pro Brexit campaigners could potentially use it as a Pro.

The flaw is that we do not know the demographic of people entering/leaving the company. Brexit was built on being able to stop unskilled workers, cherry picking the best and so someone pro remain could argue that.

I am not trying to argue against you. As I said it was an interesting graph.

@Noo_Noo my response to your post was without seeing your following posts. Thank you for the additional information.

I’m sure you will return the favour at sometime :joy:.

The jump in British nationals leaving when the new methodology was introduced is interesting. It’s quite possible that a large number of them are actually EU nationals. We left before then, but my wife would have been counted as a British rather than German national on that basis. It would also count dual nationals as British regardless of place of birth or original nationality.

It does show how haphazard population calculations have been in the past. A lot of this is down to there being no formal ID card system.

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Yeah so I’ve removed that video… not a problem.
Always open to be corrected on stuff :+1:

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The distressing thing is that the comments to that video are full of people making comments about our absurd policy of giving PlayStations to illegal immigrants, how mad we are as a country, why don’t we give PlayStations to ‘are own’, how the UK is finished etc. This is all amongst an equal number of comments explaining that it’s fake, and directly referencing the source. It’s impossible to take even a cursory glance at the comments and not click that it’s a scam.

I genuinely think one of the biggest shifts in our politics over the last decade, largely driven by social media, is that it’s no longer a battle between fact and fiction. We’re now at the point where people literally don’t care if they are wrong. It’s completely secondary to how they feel.

I wish everyone was as ready to hold their hands up as you are but it’s absolutely wild out there.

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It really is a fascinating report. Geeky almost. I like numbers.

For everyone’s benefit the jump @RedWhippet refers to is in this chart at item 4, the dark red /maroon line

Also, when I indicated that government policy can drive immigration, the report actually lists the policies that have to at least some degree driven the downward change.

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