UK Politics Thread (Part 5)

I think animal is way too kind a description for anyone attempting to cut the head off another human being.

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He didn’t say animal. He said ā€˜these animals’ and referred to people having ā€˜them’ foisted on them.

It’s fucking obvious that he is talking about entire cultures and communities of people, and as soon as we go down this road we are firmly in third reich territory.

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Yes people are scared. And this fear has been weaponised by the far right English grifters and local paramilitaries, amplified by social media algorithms and years of demonising migrants in the billionaire owned media. As a result all refugees and asylum seekers become ā€˜animals’ (to use your word), not just the attacker.

Worth noting there have been other stabbings here recently, including the murder of a mother and her unborn baby. There were no protests at all. The perpetrators were white

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And I stand by everything I’ve said. In case it’s escaped your notice these attacks are pretty commonplace now. Rapes, murders, stabbings on a daily basis. It’s not an isolated incident. And yes, people have had it foisted upon them without being consulted.
You know what I find incredible? Not a single person on this thread has made a mention of the initial incident. Not a mention of the victim. Not a single condemnation of the creature who committed the crime.
Yet people are quick to condemn the violence/rioting that resulted from it.
And people will wonder why Reform are so popular. The ā€œthis is not who we areā€ brigade are out in force. When people are sick and tired of being ignored, not having their fears and concerns listened to by gutless politicians is it any wonder they take to the streets?

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Having grown up not too far from Donny, I can tell you it is fucking grim for sexual abuse and peadophilia. And this is crime committed by ā€˜natives’ as Jaffod would say.

The thing that makes this story newsworthy, amidst the endemic levels of violence towards women and girls, that gives it intrigue and tension against the boring background noise of routine rape and assault that happens all the time, is the fact that it was committed by a foreign national.

I’m just fucking sick of people claiming that they want to protect women and girls, but only seem to get angry when it intersects with their dislike of foreigners.

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There always have been and always will be crimes/ murders committed by scum in their own community. It doesn’t mean we have to import it.

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It’s the new age of human nature.
There was more outrage at the Southport aftermath riots, looting and social media posts than the horrific murders of 3 little girls

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I’ll repeat, there is absolutely nothing wrong with using the word native in the context I used it, but if you want to make it sound like something else feel free.

Too right there are. I have been violently attacked twice on the street when I was younger. Once for being Jewish, and a second time for being gay.

The reasons for the attacks came as something of a surprise to me, but the common factor in both was bigots. Mindless bigots.

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Horrible,

I really don’t want to get into this ā€œdebateā€ but for every one immigrant criminal you can find 4 or 5 equally hideous examples from white British people.

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It will be a lot more than that, especially in Donny.

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Look at official stats rather than whatever your social media algorithm shows you. We all know migration has increased over the past decade. Crime has been on a downward trend over the same time, including murders and knife crime.

Farage and company have lots of people believing the opposite

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No, there wasn’t.

The reason why the rioting became the focus was because, while the murders were a tragic outcome of one person’s psychosis, the riots were the result of a coordinated, cynical programme of inflamming tension.

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I don’t know the area. I think I saw stats that 7% of violent crimes were by immigrants. 88% by British nationals. Of that order anyway.

I can certainly see a concern if immigration checks are not robust enough. But there’s another elephant in the room here as well.

Also worth noting that violent crime is well below peak levels of the 2000’s.

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Here is a good article, using official crime stats from ONS.

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Incredible that isn’t it? Almost like there’ll be a lot more white British people in the country or something.

No, the incredible thing is that sexual assault and violence towards women is so routine it’s barely worthy of a passing remark unless there is an immigration angle to spice the story up.

Police receive a domestic violence call every thirty seconds. One women is killed by a partner or ex partner every five days. You have to dig very deep into the backwaters of local media to read anything about these stories.

The problem is that now we’re taking our news almost exclusively from social media you are being fed stories that suit a political agenda and are likely not to be true anyway.

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I saw the picture of him in hospital. Horrific.

Don“t condone the response but it“s people pushed too far and their politicians don“t listen to them. It will get worse and worse.

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Oh look. They said they were trying to protect are women and it turned out it wasn’t really about women at all.

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Spot on. And the politicians will appeal for calm and tell everyone ā€œthat’s not who we areā€ while ignoring the root cause.

Rinse and repeat.

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