Probably because I suggested it as well. Sorry I’ll just stick to mentionning Camavinga in future. 
Agree on Declan Rice. Great player and getting better. But you ruined it with all the West Ham winning the league nonsense
They wanted £100mil for him in the summer, so the horse bolted years ago…
Rice is a really good player. Of course people turn their noses up at that, he’s not a foreign teenager who you’ve never seen play before, and he plays for West Ham. He’s much better than a lot of these kids people want.
But he’s also too expensive, and not worth what West Ham will ask for. And no, they’re not one player away from winning the league, fucking hell.
I’ve seen suggestions of Kalvin Phillips? Nah. Probably not good enough and I don’t see how he’s suited to our midfield 3.
Bissouma is the best midfielder available and that’s been the case for a while. He’s one right move away from being spoken about as one of the best midfielders in Europe IMO.
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We can all agree by now that Rice is a very good player.
But… when we talk about specific roles, he still plays #6 in a double-pivot David Moyes central midfield. For England also mainly in a double pivot.
For me, there’s still a slight (but very normal) “wait and see” with him in terms of going to a top/proactive team and playing possibly as the single #6 pivot. I’m not saying that another Eric Dier will happen, but just that… I’d like to see him in a top team. Other than England (also different to club football).
Fabinho is not young, but that position is more or less his right now and for the near future (if he keeps his level, becomes even more consistent and nothing terrible happens).
On the question of the thread, for next summer, we’ll see how it evolves. Last summer I wanted someone similar to Gini’s style. Not someone who would necessarily need to come in and play 50 games, but have him competing for minutes, if our “next layer” isn’t great and we need to go back to basics.
Between now and the summer of 2022 there’s still a lot of time and possibilities. Though it seems to me like we will again try to sell Ox, we’ll have to decide what to do with Keita, but is this Millie’s final season with us, etc.
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Rice is also off to Utd next summer… Is my educated guess. Why they didn’t do it this summer is just more shite strategy from them.
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I’ve always viewed Rice as a possible world class centre back but he’s done just fine at DM for West Ham and England. Precisely the kind of player clubs like Man United and Chelsea use and while he might be a level below Fabinho’s best, he’s never injured, he’s more consistent than Fabinho and will only get better. No chance of Liverpool ever getting him, though, he’d be extremely expensive even without the English premium.
As for Bellingham, yeah, I’d love him at Liverpool but it would take him a while to get accustomed to Klopp’s football, he wouldn’t have the freedom he’s getting at Dortmund (and German league in general). Buying him, even if club could afford him, would probably mean that Klopp and co. aren’t convinced on Jones’ potential, though, which would leave me disappointed as a fan who likes to see academy products make it at Liverpool.
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Don’t see the relevance to Jones when it comes to Bellingham? Could easily have any of Jones, Bellingham or Harvey Elliott as two 8s in our 3 man midfield at any time.
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Jones doesn’t strike me as a player who will want to remain a squad player and a second fiddle to a younger, more expensive player. That said, I think that his development curve won’t be as steep as Bellingham’s or Elliott’s (provided he overcomes this injury), so I hope that both he and club will be patient enough. I’d hate to see him waste away his potential or move to another club in order to fulfil it.
I would love Bellingham, seem to have the right aptitude and attitude for us. However, with his contract only up in 2025 and if he continues the way he plays, he is not going to cost any lesser than 100mil pounds. Not that I think he is not worth it, but the way the club and Klopp operates is always looking for value for money. We bought VVD for a world record back then simply because we think there is no other player that we want, we absolutely need VVD. Same goes for Alisson when our Karius experiment failed. Would we ever be in a situation where Klopp or the club thinks we absolutely need Bellingham for 100mil pounds or more or would there be very good players that we can develop in a season or two for good value, like what we did with Mane, Fabinho, Robertson etc. Of course, if the opposite happens and we absolutely must buy Bellingham regardless the price, I would be excited too but I would hardly think so in my personal opinion based on the current situation.
We play 3 CMs and Jones can also potentially play in attack. Why would one CM in Bellingham being ahead of him be an issue?
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I’m sorry, you were saying. WEST HAM ARE ONE STRIKER AWAY FROM BEING A CONTENDER FOR THE TITLE. I cannot stress this enough. We were thoroughly and completely overrun in midfield by West Ham and if they had anyone clinical up front we’d have been down 4 or 5. I wish I was wrong about this midfield but every man and his dog could have seen this coming. Shitty fucking ownership and management with their cheap fucking transfer strategy. We have 8 midfielders but we are still short two quality midfielders who are athletic, young, strong in the tackle, and can chip in with goals. Fornals, Rice, Bowen, Soucek completely and utterly bossed that midfield. Look at who we have in the middle: Jones & Elliott are kids(they need room to develop), Milner(dinosaur), Hugo(over thirty and injury-prone), Fabinho( very good but is getting a few niggles now), Naby( ALways injured), Ox( Always injured), Tiago(best passer but can’t tackle or run and always injured). So please tell me, how does this team win anything with that midfield? And before the apologists come out with their 8 players for 3 roles, that’s more like 4 players for 3 roles to play 50+ game; Hugo + Fab and any of the other two who might be fit and available. It’s last year all over again, stupid incompetent transfer strategy.
Did not read.
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When did we sign Hugo?
How can you be overrun in midfield by a team that counter attacks?
Tactical nonsense!!!
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By overrun, he means sit back and kick it over the top for Antonio to run onto. Maybe?
Dude in the second half…our midfield was completely and utterly overrun, played through, however you want to put it. They did the same thing that Brighton did 2 weeks ago. Ox was nowhere to be found, Hugo did his best and Fabinho seemed to be 70% fit. They were bossed just like how Brighton bossed us. Put however you want to.
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Yeah right they had 90% possession of the ball and our midfielders looked rediculous. Go figure, which match were you watching? 
they didn’t had a lot of the ball but they made our midfield look ridiculously bad…
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Our defense you mean?
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