Who would you buy? (Part 2)

[redfanman]

[Limiescouse]

@20andcounting

Speaking about Spurs, apart from Porro, another player to consider is Kulusevski. He has been injured for about a year. Prior to that, he was an integral part of the team. Plays predominantly on the right wing, so possible replacement for Salah.

One million percent no. He has looked impressive and been a big loss for them, but he has missed an entire season of football and the pending world cup for a knee injury where the timeline for his return keeps getting moved. They sent him for surgery at the end of last season initially thinking he’ only need the off season to recover and would be back shortly after the season started. That was then pushed out to January and its now May and we still haven’t seen him. That is 12 months for a surgery they thought would be recovered from over the course of an off season.

[rab]

He had another operation in February and still hasn’t returned to training.

There’s some concern among Spurs fans that he might be done for good. But even if he’s not an entire year away from the game and even being able to train is going to have long term ramifications.

[Limiescouse]

@rab

There’s some concern among Spurs fans that he might be done for good.

Yeah. Not just among spurs fans. The sober interpretation of an injury this much worse and complicated than initially thought when he had his initial surgery is absolutely in “will he ever play again” territory.

[Bekloppt]

Shame really. Smashing player.

[redfanman]

I think I read that he had a further operation in March which he said was just to clear up some bits inside his knee and that this was nothing to worry about as was usual practice.

[Limiescouse]

If you are having follow up surgery in March, 10 months after the initial surgery that was only supposed to keep you out for 2-3 months, there is nothing usual about it. Fingers crossed the prognosis related to this second surgery is good, but the whole situation is a huge concern.

[JustHitMyHead]

I think with Guehi, we might have been counting on Elliott money.

Hard to say… I feel like 80M to 100M net spend is probably the most we will do with a preference to the lower end or even less.

We have to keep in mind that in one more season it will then be VVD and Gomez leaving on frees so we can’t spend big and expect to close up shop going forward.

Definitely feels like one of Alisson or MacAllister is going to go.

[JustHitMyHead]

Given the injury problems we had this year coupled with those of some of our key youngsters even the whiff of an injury problem should have us staying away.

For whatever reason, managing injuries is not something we are good at.

[JustHitMyHead]

@rab

I dunno, I think if we get CL we should be able to do some reasonable business. Not to last years level but even with that outlay we only had the second highest net spend in the league and the year before I think we were in profit.

I know it’s not as simple as that but as a rough idea of what we might be able to spend we should be in a comfortable place to do most of what’s needed with a couple outgoings helping balance the books.

I think CL is needed just to breakeven and avoid even further tightening. In a season where we do well, we barely turn a profit.

Football is unfortunately a business that needs constant investment. And thus the need for FSG to sell stakes in itself every once in a while to turn those paper profits into money that can be invested.

[Bonus]

@Kopstar

None of the Spurs players interest me. Bowen is too old now. And should only be a squad player in any event.

That Mika Godts guy looks an ideal Gakpo replacement. Should be affordable as well. Add Mateus Fernandez and a left footed wide player for the right, bring back Elliott and Tsimikas, add Van Hecke and a decent right back and we’re in good shape.

Outs:
Salah
Robertson
Gakpo (£30m?)
Mac Allister (£40m?)
Alisson (£10m?)

Ins:
Fernandez (£50m?)
Godts (£30m?)
Van Hecke (£40m?)
Wide forward for the right (~£50m?)
RB (~£20m?)

Returns:
Elliott
Tsimikas

£110m net spend definitely doable

If we want a number 6 as well then sell Gravenberch.

Those valuations…

Its 2026, not 2010!

[rab]

@JustHitMyHead

@rab

I dunno, I think if we get CL we should be able to do some reasonable business. Not to last years level but even with that outlay we only had the second highest net spend in the league and the year before I think we were in profit.

I know it’s not as simple as that but as a rough idea of what we might be able to spend we should be in a comfortable place to do most of what’s needed with a couple outgoings helping balance the books.

I think CL is needed just to breakeven and avoid even further tightening. In a season where we do well, we barely turn a profit.

Football is unfortunately a business that needs constant investment. And thus the need for FSG to sell stakes in itself every once in a while to turn those paper profits into money that can be invested.

Way I see it is a season in the Europa League is something that, financially speaking, could be tolerated but would see a tempering of what we might spend. CL qualification means business as usual.

Despite last summer’s spending they’ll have known replacing Salah and van Dijk was going to need to happen in the next couple of seasons. We don’t plan our business season to season so whilst we might be doing Salah a season early we’ll have the flex to do so.

Simplistically we’ve a net spend of about £130m-£140m across the last two seasons. That’s not outrageous given our standing and revenues. All the talk last summer was of us being in an incredibly strong position from a PSR standpoint, even after our massive outlay.

We’ve commited to Jaquet already but I reckon you recoup most of that from Elliott, Chiesa and a couple young lads moving on. Can’t see why we couldn’t then do £150m plus any further sales on top of that. Would average out to about £100m net a season for each of the last three seasons. Hardly outrageous.

And aren’t FSG selling stakes in their overall group to take profit for themselves. We know they’re not putting it into our transfer business.

[gasband]

Considering our success with Chiesa, We can point to Chiesa and convince him to come here for 12m and prove himself again at a top club after a big injury

[Sweeting]

Fuck it just buy a whole new midfield. Elliott Anderson, Adam Wharton and Alex Scott. Defence would be completely fucked but they’d at least be able to pass the ball beautifully!

[JustHitMyHead]

We might be sustainable from a PSR standpoint but the whole PSR name is a misnomer. For most clubs it is all about degrees of financial loss… which means money either has to be injected or debt increased. Likely this is why the investment from FSG is not very apparent because it isn’t huge sums.

We are considered well-managed but over the last 5 years (not including this past summer where we spent big), we lose a little bit on average every year (~49m over 5 years) while spending on average around 50m net on transfers.

That is before counting outliers of big spending like we did last season. So if we are talking about 150m net on top of what was done last season then simplistically, yes we have room to incur more debt like other clubs. I expect 80 to 100m net is probably not too unlikely.

Definitely we can decide to fuel more signings with even more debt (we have capacity fod that) but this would be a far departure from how the club has been run in the past.

[GermanRed]

@Sweeting

Alex Scott

[Liverdinner]

Id buy whatever we can get of the following

CM to come in and run the show with the ball
Eliot Anderson would be top pick, maybe Wharton or Morten Hjulmand at Sporting
DM to win the ball and sit in front of the back 4 - no charging up field
Maybe Kamara at Monaco
2 wingers
Olise the dream, Yildiz or Conceicao at Juventus, Schulderup maybe. Diomande seems a bit of a pace merchant to me and i don´t want to rely on a teenager like him or Godts
A full back that can play both sides.
No idea who

[RedOverTheWater]

Welcome to the site. Some good shouts there, cheers.

I’d be happy if we signed two wingers and Diomande was one of them. I hear you with relying on a teenager, but he seems to be having a big breakout year, and I wonder if we would regret not signing him, sort of like Olise when he left Palace and plenty were saying we should have gone in for him then. He seems like a dream too far now.

[JustHitMyHead]

@RedOverTheWater

I’d be happy if we signed two wingers and Diomande was one of them. I hear you with relying on a teenager, but he seems to be having a big breakout year, and I wonder if we would regret not signing him, sort of like Olise when he left Palace and plenty were saying we should have gone in

A lot of stuff is in retrospect here. For example, I’m glad that we didn’t go for someone like Olise who was coming off a very injury laden season when he left Palace.

Sure he has done very well there but that is a risk we should not be taking no matter how it turned out.

[Liverdinner]

Thank you.

You could be right. If we bring in another more senior winger it wouldn´t be a problem at all.

Have to say, he does seem a bit of a pace merchant though at times. I do wonder about his dribbling and passing into the box. I think the top wide players play with their heads up and can pick a clever pass, like Yamal and Kvara.

Maybe one rapid winger and one clever winger like Yildiz would be nice.