Judgement, smh.
Leave it here.
the point of ger reaction has been mentioned a fair bit…
its not her reaction that counts…shes just won the wrold cup…the WORLD CUP.
her reaction to getting smacked on the lips by some caveman is not really the issue…the issue is the caveman planting a kiss on her lips. uninvited.
to take it to an extreme…(an unrealistc scenario, but its being used for emphasis) if you were to walk into a birthing suite and planted a kiss on a female in labour, you couldnt use the ‘well she didnt seem to notice or care’ defence…
i also think ‘in shock’ isnt the correct terminology…shes a fully grown female who would have had to have worked her guts out with Grim determination to get where she was…some eejit kissing her in the wrong moment probably wouldnt personally deter her or send her reeling like an delicate flower…
it probably didnt register at that point in time that she had just recieved her medal…it doesnt have to ‘shock’ her, destroy her mentally, or hurt her, to be wrong… and we need to understand that as the KEY point…a female doesnt have to be ‘hurt’ for it to be wrong.
its a GOOD thing, that she, and other women, have the ability to look back at a situation and say…‘you know what, thats not right’…it may not have devastated her, it might not have ‘set back womens football’, it might not even be ‘the biggest crime in the world’… but its just not right.
furthermore to the discussion, the fact that it was the womens world cup final, and the fact that the tournement was of the highest quality and finally took the narative AWAY from ‘thats good to see the girls progress’ kind of patronising tone means that males of an authoritive position, should have been well fucking aware to try not to do anything, even remotely controversial, to take away from the moment…
that this fuckwit has litterally kissed a player on the lips and (in a seperate incident) grabbed his dick in celebration, means he shouldnt have been in the stadium in the first place. read the room.
so…yeah…
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Some of my close friends are women.
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“I cannot continue my work,” Rubiales said as he announced his intention to resign on the television programme 'Piers Morgan Uncensored’.
Wtaf. Embarrassing.
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Good riddance.
This dick has tainted what should have been the pinnacle of those young women’s careers with his brain-dead machismo.
I hope it changes something.
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The cynic in me says nothing will change quickly in Spain… Greenwood going to Getafe right in the middle of all this Rubialies stuff says it all. .
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Fuck him,he chose to go down the,I asked,( didn’t look like it),tried to blame her,then stood on his dig,or lack of it,he had to go,he could have done it without fanfare but chose his route.All the footage here,and there was stacks,he looked like he grabbed her head…she had no way out.
No but don’t you know she “looked far from shock immediately after the kiss” and “didn’t look too bothered at the time” so it’s fine…
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Saved you the chore of searching for something to be offended by.
You’re welcome 
He probably could have survived if he had apologized for his ‘exuberance in the moment of joy’ immediately after it became an issue. His attempts to avoid that have cost him his career.
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One can translate the above headline as “Rubialies resigns over beautiful kiss.” Humorous. Like a Trump defense. It was a perfect kiss! Buh-bye.
Exactly. If he’d immediately apologised and said that he’d been caught up in the excitement, he’d have got away with it, but his attitude after the accusation displayed his true nature.
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Ah yes, it’s always someone else getting offended by something, not your actions causing offence.
Very passive there, almost perfect for the topic.
If anyone finds anything I’ve posted in this thread offensive, I’m flabbergasted.
But it is 2023, so nothing would surprise me.
It’s never your fault is it? It’s always the fault of someone else if something you say is offensive…
Exactly, his response to this incident is a reflection of the way he has operated in this position of power. He has cultivated a loyal following by rewarding those who support him and the flip side of that is they are waiting to be activated when he calls on them. Self-reflection and apology is just not on the agenda for men like that, which is largely why he thought it was his right to do what he did in the first place.
I really don’t think you can uncouple his response to the situation from the incident in the first place.
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My opinion for what it’s worth.
I didn’t think it was planned. He got caught up in the moment.
Long time ago, I was in the Kop end. Packed. Xmas time. Man City were winning 1-0. 2nd half we turn the screws. Get the equalizer with 15 mins to go. The Kop is shouting ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK! We get a last minute winner. A fan next to me, who I didn’t know from Adam, grabs my head and plants a smacker on my lips.
Problem with Rubiales is he lied. Tried to get her involved. There’s no way he asked her, is it ok to kiss you? Then he kept on lying. The actual kiss is not the end of the world. It’s the attitudes of men like him and the attitudes they foster. Obviously, people in positions of responsibility have to act with dignity, decorum etc.
That doesn’t mean it was okay either. If he apologised to her, it doesn’t mean that his position should not be reviewed either. It’s not his right to be in that position, it’s a privilege, and one that should be taken seriously. If he can’t control himself amidst all that, then perhaps he shouldn’t be in that position.
The lying just compounds it further.
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So tell me, what exactly was it that I posted that you found offensive?