Lol. Wut?
https://x.com/henrywinter/status/1958071182630252956
Disrespectful? Didnt leave them enough time, despite Isak informing them of his intention before the season ended? What is happening here? Why are people presenting (laundering?) such obviously bullshit arguments?
I would have a lot more respect for Newcastle if the line coming out of the club was “we disagree with his version of events, but even if they were true it would not change our position that it is not our interest to sell him and we expect him to return to the team when the window has closed” rather than coming up with all these “life really isnt fair for us poor petrostate funded clubs who arent allowed to buy everything we want” fucking angles
More to the point, some journos are really showing their arses over this story in a way that will difficult to recover from. Did football journalism used to be like this?
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Maybe they could offer the fee Brentford want for Wissa and not be so disrespectful see how garbage that argument is?
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Evidently Isak didn’t feel that the amount quoted for him by Liverpool was disrespectful. What would be disrespectful would be if we had quoted somewhere around half of Newcastle’s valuation.
How much are these journalists paid by PIF for these articles anyway ?
And Isak’s valuation stems from his ammortization fees. That’s the only real valuation. Everything else is the club’s desired price. Isak arrived from Sociedad at a 63M fee on a 6 year contract. He’s completed 3 years of that six year contract. So that puts his valuation around 31M in terms of ammortization. Liverpool gave a more than generous offer there.
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The reason I am still unmarried is I have too often found myself in the role of the wife in this scenario 
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Yeah evidently this is two stories from the clubs, we pay less and rely on Pearce, Joyce and Ormstein to push our position.
Hence there are two stories however I don’t expect Newcastle’s owners to tell the truth.
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Offering a British transfer record fee is disrespectful…
Give me a fucking break.
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Is this meant to be one of several tweets setting out different viewpoints of the situation, or is this really the take he is going with? I would have thought the former but dont see the usual numbering to indicate it is a thread.
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Newcastle sources have been reporting since at least March that there was uncertainty over Isak’s position at the club and it was likely going to define their summer. Now that doesnt say anything to what was promised to Isak about it, but it does mean that if Newcastle were indeed only acting on a response once we formally submitted our disrespectful bid then the issue here is their incompetence.
The story is just such a weird one for a respected journo like Winter to float.
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Thats why i wondered if it was part of a wider piece…
No, this is it. It is the totality of his argument.
He has balanced it by talking in the responses about his previous reporting of how other clubs have fought to obtain the best price for a want away player, citing liverpool and torres. But the two are not the same at all. If you accept this is hardball business, then fuck off with feeling disrespected by a club on the other side doing the same.
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Nah Winter just swallowing bollocks. 110m was encouraged from somewhere it was supposed to be an opening bid. See Wissa and their 25m bid.
We’ve done this with several players this summer especially Wirtz and clubs have understood this.
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And lets face it, Isak guaranteed them CL football for 2 seasons. That money alone is more than enough for Newcastle to be even turning over a profit even if they sell Isak for 40-50m.
Instead, they choose to peddle the lie that Liverpool’s record bid of 110m+ addons is disrespectful.
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Did they first bid for Wissa before going for Ekitike, or did that first bid for him happen afterwards?
They did seem to be wanting 2 forwards. One of them being Wissa and the other being Ekitike (If Isak was sold). They then shifted to Sesko when Ekitike joined us and are apparently right now asking every Tom , Dick & Harry Kane to join their club in desperation.
We were touted with an interest for Ekitike if the Isak deal didn’t happen. Jota’s untimely demise pushed us into signing Ekitike as his effective replacement. At this point, We’d still be needing a replacement for Nunez now. And I’d rather it was someone affordable like Goncalo Ramos than Isak. Nothing against Isak, but if he breaks free from his contract, there will be the Spanish clubs , not to mention PSG , who can offer him better terms than us.
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Dont know about formal bids, but stories of their desire to bring in Wissa have been going on all summer. They appear to be more connected to the loss of Wilson than any response to the Isak situation though.
But this is just further diminishing their own argument given they are still pissing around on a move we all expect will result in Brentford being short of a key player very late in the window. You can guarantee Brentford are not sitting on their hands waiting for an acceptable bid to be received before thinking about continuity planning
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Honestly, get Barcola or the Lyon lad or Rodrygo or whoever good enough to bolster our forward numbers and be done with this.
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My sentiments too. We can’t be waiting too long for someone who hasn’t had a preseason. Get someone in the forward line, Keep Chiesa who can play across the forward line as a standby and get Guehi done. If there’s enough money to spare , get in a backup CDM.
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We should be actively exploring other options at this point.
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That was my recollection and feeds into your point about incompetence. If they went for Wissa at the start of the window and still havent got him, just how much time does Winter think should be given to Newcastle to sign replacements for Isak?
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We’ve probably got a loan deal for a journeyman league two player lined up on deadline day in case of emergency