Did they first bid for Wissa before going for Ekitike, or did that first bid for him happen afterwards?
They did seem to be wanting 2 forwards. One of them being Wissa and the other being Ekitike (If Isak was sold). They then shifted to Sesko when Ekitike joined us and are apparently right now asking every Tom , Dick & Harry Kane to join their club in desperation.
We were touted with an interest for Ekitike if the Isak deal didn’t happen. Jota’s untimely demise pushed us into signing Ekitike as his effective replacement. At this point, We’d still be needing a replacement for Nunez now. And I’d rather it was someone affordable like Goncalo Ramos than Isak. Nothing against Isak, but if he breaks free from his contract, there will be the Spanish clubs , not to mention PSG , who can offer him better terms than us.
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Dont know about formal bids, but stories of their desire to bring in Wissa have been going on all summer. They appear to be more connected to the loss of Wilson than any response to the Isak situation though.
But this is just further diminishing their own argument given they are still pissing around on a move we all expect will result in Brentford being short of a key player very late in the window. You can guarantee Brentford are not sitting on their hands waiting for an acceptable bid to be received before thinking about continuity planning
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Honestly, get Barcola or the Lyon lad or Rodrygo or whoever good enough to bolster our forward numbers and be done with this.
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My sentiments too. We can’t be waiting too long for someone who hasn’t had a preseason. Get someone in the forward line, Keep Chiesa who can play across the forward line as a standby and get Guehi done. If there’s enough money to spare , get in a backup CDM.
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We should be actively exploring other options at this point.
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That was my recollection and feeds into your point about incompetence. If they went for Wissa at the start of the window and still havent got him, just how much time does Winter think should be given to Newcastle to sign replacements for Isak?
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We’ve probably got a loan deal for a journeyman league two player lined up on deadline day in case of emergency 
They’ve been on Wissa all summer, I think there was some agreement last summer he could go for 26m, oddly Newcastle have only offered 25m but Brentford now want 60m which is fair enough. If you are going low ball on a figure from a year before.
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If there is anything we know about this lot it is they will have all the contingency planning all mapped out already and know exactly where the fork in the road is that will indicate it is time to change direction.
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No, that would be to Newcastle’s benefit.
Some consortium of American billionaires buys it and hires the right people to run the club effectively? That’s not what we want. Let PIF keep the club and run it as if the players were just overpaid camel jockeys.
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And wasn’t there a post in this forum referring to a newcastle fan mentioning how Howe did a masterclass 4d chess move when Ekitike was bought by Liverpool.
How’s that working out rightr now ?
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So he was left out of a friendly on the 19th July due to transfer speculation. We made a bid on the 1st of August and were told he’s not for sale.
But apparently all this is our fault for not acting sooner or making a suitable offer despite being told he wasn’t for sale when we offered a British record fee with a month of the window left. Make that make sense if you can.
Yes, that offer is less than Newcastle want but at the point we make an offer he’s already being left out of games so why should we go in with a bid to match what they’ve leaked they’d want? If they were open to selling him why not negotiate our offer instead of saying he’s not for sale?
As for Winter calling them “proud, tough owners who don’t like losing” that’s just sickening. Clearly worried about their reputation when it comes to journalists not bootlicking the state.
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It’s obvious he won’t go back there.
Window shuts while he is on international duty, he doesn’t return post international duty.
Exactly. If we drop out now, that gives Newcastle the chance to win over the player for the season. If we go right to the wire, it just reinforces the player’s vindication of his stance.
Not sure that ever happens. He can not play for the club again and still get selected for the world cup team. He has nothing to gain (after taking this stance of not wanting to play for the club) if he chooses to play for the club again.
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But if we don’t sign someone then we are short up top. However I suppose with Leoni it showed we can get someone in who provides that option while still being after Guehi.
Yeah his international boss has backed him.
And the advantage is that (from Sweden’s perspective), he can be very fit for the national team and end up at the world cup being very fresh as opposed to other players who’ve entered the world cup playing a grueling season.
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Only down side is he isn’t match fit. Though I assume the Swedish facilities would try their best.
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