Alexander Isak (CF) Newcastle

Very ugly…

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It goes both sides.

From all accounts , Newcastle reneged on the promise of a new contract for Isak. Instead of being stuck in newcastle with a very expensive transfer fee(which stops all but Saudi clubs from bidding for him), He’s trying to get to play with a competitive team for the biggest prizes in world football. He’s trying to drive down the price because that’s essentially the advice he’s been getting.

What good would a transfer request do at this stage ? Newcastle pricing him at 150m while reneging on prior promises doesn’t make a good look for the club and it also shows that they can’t be trusted. They can offer isak an improved contract but I suspect the money is just one bit of the whole picture. From whathas been said, There were also promises on increasing the quality of the squad and Newcastle’s transfer window has been nothing short of a disaster.

When a club like Newcastle has a top star, they have to make certain promises that ensures that he stays. Newcastle for various reasons (mostly linked to FFP) aren’t able to strengthen the squad sufficiently for him to stay.

It’s not a good thing for Isak but there’s little else he can do. He’s made up his mind to move from the club and is trying to force the club to decrease it’s valuation. At some point, Newcastle might decide that their 150m asking price is too much and then consider decreasing the price considering that they need to replace Isak. The longer they wait, the less chance they have of getting suitable replacements and the more likely it is that the likes of Red Bull with rinse them with the Sesko deal.

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While there is no guarantee. A 6 year contract for Isak does in someway prevent him from leaving easily. He’s entering his peak as a footballer and Real Madrid aren’t lacking in attackers. There’s only one upgrade from us and that’s to Real Madrid. A movement to any other club is either a step down or a sideways step. We can easily tide over whatever interest the clubs do profess because he would be contracted to us all the way through to his early 30s.

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Think it pertains to ‘loyalty’ bonuses etc due when a player leaves if they haven’t officially requested a transfer - ie it would increase the net return to Newcastle of any given transfer fee (or make them willing to accept a lower fee). I’m sure @kopstar or the like will be able to correct/add an addendum as required.

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It does impact the loyalty bonus. Normally, if they submit this, they would lose the loyalty bonus. Gyokeres and his agent gave up £2m to make the Arsenal transfer happen.

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So what’s the benefit for the player?

They get their desired move. On occasion, players have taken a pay cut to facilitate a move because they are so pissed off with their current situation.

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Someone makes a living out of this at BBC?

:man_facepalming:t2:

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Yeah, but there are a lot of ways for a player to force a move without an official transfer request - and it’s not as if any club is bound to accept an official transfer request, right?

Apparently so, might ask for a refund on my license fee. Somehow I find it unlikely we would ignore the likes of Mac and Szobo to shoe-horn Ekitike into midfield :sweat_smile:

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Not offensive enough

Apparently, we need Joey Barton up front…

Not nearly as shit as the tactics of ETh.

The guys at BBC can apply for the United job.

I think the transfer request is essentially the final straw these days. Player basically says “I want out and I’m willing to leave money on the table to get my move”.

Clubs don’t have to accept but depending on how much money that is and how badly they’d like it to look like they did all they could, they can and do sometimes ask players to submit that.

If Isak is now skipping training Newcastle could well fine him but there’s a limit to how much they can do that even if he’s just not showing up. Asking him to put a transfer request in basically is them concerning they’ll let him go providing he gives up something in return.

Ben Foster did a video on this fairly recently.

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It’s missing our best player ffs

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Usually, by the 4th year of the contract, if he doesn’t signs an extension, he is more than likely to go to the white spanish cunts. By the time it reaches to the penultimate year, the resale value will dip by a fair lot even if he wins everything that has to be won in English and European football.

By the penultimate year, we will make a profit but we would not be able to maximise the value that we can get.

He’ll already be 32 by then.

There’s a whole lot of difference there

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A player can go on strike or go AWOL like what Isak is allegedly doing but it will warrant suspension of pay as well.

An official transfer request like how some have mentioned here is the waiver of loyalty bonuses which can be very very substantial.

An official transfer request is able to split the dressing room given how much Isak have for being the top player in the club…

Fuck all that , Isak is a Liverpool player.

I’m allowed to be excited by that.

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Which is largely meaningless if the club is determined not to sell you.

But if a player goes on strike it does more to create a problem for the club’s management than submitting an ‘official’ transfer request, and so more likely to bring them to the table to negotiate a solution.

If the owning club are unwilling to sanction a transfer following an ‘unofficial transfer request’ then it’s not going to make a difference. It’s there for either appearance sake or as part of getting an agreed deal done.

I don’t see how it would have any impact in this regard, certainly not more than from going on strike?