It’s the five stages of grief. Strange to apply it to a big transfer, but that’s the sequence they are going through. Acceptance is the final one, and they are mostly there.
All that remains is them bringing in Wissa and Jackson, or similar, and agreeing some sort of face saving price between what we first offered and the ridiculous £150M that has consistently been bandied about.
We will get him, late on in the window. It will be salty as, between the clubs, for a while, and we move on.
No although putting it in writing obviously avoids any ambiguity but for equally obvious reasons players do that only as a last resort, preferring to keep the issue contestable to some degree for as long as possible.
There was one fan i cant remember where i saw Facebook group or one of sites. He made the point we are happy Wissa is essentially doing the same thing to force Newcastle move.
Thing is if this was any LFC player id want him gone. If someone doesn’t want to be here then why keep them? Just get the best price you can and fuck them off.
I look at stuff like this coming from NC affiliated folks and you can see why there appears to be an internal division. Too many of them just blowing hot air…
Newcastle coming across as dicks in this. Not sure how they get the next wave of real talent to join given how intransigent and faithless they are appearing in the public eye. Cutting off their nose to spite their face.
There is a lot of naivety around Newcastle, and their inexperience of operating this level is really coming through.
Yes, if a player wants to leave, you let them go - but you take control of the process and you make sure it happens on your terms.
Like Diaz this summer - the club’s response to the player will have been ‘ok, that’s fine. This is how we make that happen, and you need to do x, y and z. They will have been clear with him what they need from Bayern, and they will have been absolutely professional with everyone. And, they will be been sound with Diaz himself - it was never ever going to get to the point where he was on strike demanding to go.
The only reason the club is exceptionally good at this is because we have been through it in the past and made a fucking hash of it.
And the fans have been through it as well. We’ve seen better players than Diaz leave, and there is generally a trust around the club that the guys in charge know what they are doing.
Newcastle, by contrast have totally lost control of this. There messages have been all over the place. He isn’t for sale. The price is £150m. But that’s just to pick up the phone. He isn’t for sale again. We’re disappointed Liverpool haven’t bid. We’re disappointed they have bid. Liverpool need to fuck off. Liverpool need to get to the table. He is going nowhere. He won’t play for the club again. The manager is saying one thing. The club are saying another.
And then you combine this with their inability to get a player over the line (which might be linked to how they are acting over Isak) and it’s hard not to be impressed at how they have managed to turn a situation in which they should have had total control into an absolute clusterfuck.
Maybe the lesson here is don’t let the manager put his nephew in change of transfers.
The point where they really crossed a line and inadvertently showed their hand is the briefing they put out that Liverpool had bottled the transfer, knew £110m wouldn’t be accepted and were just trying to save face with their fans.
That’s fucking hilarious. Liverpool Football Club do not care in the slightest what fans think about transfers. It might say rather more about his Newcastle Utd approach issues of Public Relations with their fans.
Keep in mind that we are hearing reports of what discussions happened, and what promises were allegedly reneged on, but we are forced to decide for ourselves what we think is true and there is a great deal of uncertainty about that. The players on the market will have enough contacts to have fairly strong corroboration of what is actually true though. And there is definitely a version of this that does not make Newcastle an attractive place to land for a talented player with options and hopes of using them as a stepping stone.
Wouldn’t tar them (Geordies) all with the same brush mind. A lot of the online ones are certainly fuming at everyone but Newcastle United and how they are being run - it’s Liverpool’s fault, they’ve unsettled him, it’s PSR, it’s the big six being protected.
Trent got a lot of stick when he announced his desire to leave for Madrid (for fucking free), but overall most of our fans seemingly when “oh well, he’s served us well, its his life, cya!”