You’ve hit on a reason why we do need to engage with Fulham though. If they gave us permission, we wouldn’t have to wait until June at the earliest. We could get a pre-contract agreement with the player now.
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Oooo
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Oh dear. Well, Fulham can’t not give Liverpool permission to carry on talking to Carvalho now. Collateral contract.
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Oh no, we need him to play him as a wide forward.
Player knows our situation and that whatever happens he’s at Fulham until 30th June so all we have to do is keep other clubs off him by assuring him and his team we still have the intention to sign him.
All we have to do is breach the regulations?I
I’d prefer we went down the alternative route.
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Agreeing a deal with us before his contract expires?
It’s not breaching, it’s no more than a few verbal advise.
Anyway I trust the recruitment and direction of this club to act in the appropriate manner.
If the player has second thoughts then all the best to him, not the end of the world for us.
But I’m 99% certain he’s a Liverpool player come July 1st
It is breaching as we are not allowed to approach again without Fulham’s consent or his contract ends.
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I was thinking hey that’s a bonus, then remembered he’s on less that 1k a week.
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I’ll be “that guy”, sorry, I’m going to say no chance he will be a Liverpool player in the summer. It was today or it wasn’t going to be.
Foreign clubs will spin his head, quickly. Listen to the things he says. And that’s by no means “shade” on the young man, but he really has the highest of goals for himself and he’s going to have persuasive people coming at him from all angles.
I don’t think he moves the needle for us either way. It was always a punt on a talented young player.
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I think you will be proven wrong. By all accounts, he wants to be at Liverpool with Klopp. Its also noticeable that there was little noise from other clubs who might have been interested - that suggests they know where he wants to go.
Klopp plays our youngsters, so the appeal of Dortmund et Al isn’t as strong over us as with other clubs.
Fingers crossed 
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I hope I am wrong @redfanman. I think the boy is talented. But I’ll be stunned if it comes to be.
We’ve all seen this so many times before that it’s almost cliche in the world of football. That’s no slight on him, or our recruitment team. This boy will have “advisers” from all over coming at him.
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If Fulham is still willing to negotiate with us or honor the price agreed, we will still be able to talk/ come to agreement with player. The fact that Williams got done makes it seem that we will have good relationship with them, I think it’s in the bag.
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It is definitely off the excuse from Fulham they didn’t complete the paperwork before the deadline they added that the situation is as was before the agreement meaning they have shafted us and to add insult to injury we loaned them Conor Williams and completed the paperwork on time funny that!
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Yes, I was just about to say similar. Presumably we could have gone back on this if we thought Fulham were acting in bad faith (although perhaps the loan makes sense anyway).
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No, i dont think so. The deadlines are different (loans by midnight, other deals by 11pm). Presumably loans also require less paperwork than permanent deals.
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The only consolation is if it is Dortmund’s doing ie turning the lads head the only consolation is Fulham will get FA paperwork or no paperwork
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