I watched just over half the game… as soon as Man City were cruising I had to try the Everton game, to see if Brentford could do something.
Anyway, Carvalho played well in the half I saw. He showed for the ball, had great balance, good skill, seemed two footed, beat players, took his goal well - although to be fair it was an easy one. He had a decent turn of pace and used his body well to shield it too.
Based on the first half we absolutely look to be signing an exciting player who won’t look out of place here. Given that we improve players it will be fun to see what he can do.
You would have to think many teams in Europe are sitting up and taking notice, so hopefully we get this one over the line. It sounds very positive that we will.
Next Diaz. Carvalho is emerging. Diaz is here and now. I hope he gets a run out tomorrow. Like all reds I watched lots of clips when we signed him. Pace. Skill. Goals. Very much looks like a top player. Can’t wait to see what he does in a Liverpool shirt.
Was that published somewhere, or something you know, or something you’re guessing? I’m just curious, I haven’t seen the two concretely linked except from you here, not sure why you think it. It would be great move by us if that’s what we did.
It hasn’t been published, AFAIK, but it wouldn’t be necessary to explicitly link them. The absence of any written agreement to the effect of a collateral contract does not prevent one arising. Conduct alone can be enough. Providing the two deals are sufficiently closely related the intended contractual obligations under the Carvalho agreement will remain enforceable.
If he wants to come here he will. I don’t see a club say like Dortmund tempting him especially as it’s seen as a step to somewhere like Liverpool nowadays.
The big Spanish clubs might flutter but again I dunno if that will attract him. 4-5 years ago this would concern me, today it doesn’t.
He can look at this squad and say I can break into that if I want, the manager isn’t buying new play things every five minutes. I’ll get my chance.
I thought there was some rule that precluded us from entering into an agreement with him until a month before the season ends? Even with the collateral contract - which from my understanding, only secures the compensation we’d pay Fulham in the event that Carvalho signs with us (and the Neco loan) - Carvalho still has to wait until a month before the season ends to sign a contract with us?
Perhaps I’m misunderstanding the difference between a pre-agreement and an actual contract.
This is all a question of permission. We can enter into an agreement with the player now if we have the permission of his club. The collateral contract point makes that unnecessary although Liverpool are still likely to want Fulham to confirm it anyway, for good order.
If clubs in England and Wales don’t have Fulham’s permission they have to wait until June/July to contact the player directly (when permission is not required). Foreign clubs can, of course, talk to the player now without needing permission.
Even reading the post three above yours would have granted some of the answers you seek, but I get it. With over an hour to kick off there’s simply not the time to scroll up a bit.
I think this is close to a perfect scenario for us. He knows we want him, he know what we have offered him, so he is obviously happy with the terms of the contract (maybe even signed it) now if he signs for anyone else, then we have dodged a bullet as you don’t want those types of players in your squad. I don’t think he is that type of person, Jurgen seems to be a good judge of character.
Would have been a time where as a youngster you might consider moving somewhere before the move but you look at the way Klopp manages the team and the youngsters being given a chance and you’d take your chance.
Pretty sure we signed a ton of players in our history who were on the verge of going elsewhere. I think most of us don’t know how he plays, let alone what’s his character.
