Tô be fair I do feel for the players in this who showed such passion about their tour and golf in general.
That prick at the head of the PGA has just taken his silver.
Lots of people dont like the sports washing and dirty money flooding the game, but not all the criticisms were based on that. His were far more in line with those directed to the European Super League - they were based on the negative impact it would have on the future of the game. His primary criticism was that the players going to LIV built their reputation in the PGA and were now taking money to draw eye balls and $ away by joining a new league, which would in the longer term make it much harder for the next generation of players to build their own brand in the PGA.
I think what we’ve seen in this conversation is there were many reasons to criticize LIV but not all of those criticisms were based on the source of funding.
He’s still saying he hates Liv and hopes this is the end of it. Who knows if what comes next is better or worse 
I know but to say “this isn’t LIV”… “it’s PGA, DP ET and PIF” is somewhat naive, no? PIF is/was LIV and he’s already sowing the seeds for his backtracking on “team” golf.
Hard to blame him for his climbdown, but if he wanted to really fight back, he could, but it would hurt both his career and pocket. Guess it’s true what they say, everybody has their price.
Probably yeah. Ultimately it’s all depressing and likely to continue with other sports too. God knows what our grandchildren will be watching…if Saudis haven’t destroyed the world through climate change and their proxy wars before then
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LIV was a break away league that pilfered several of the most high profile players, removing them, and the eye balls of the fans who tune in to watch them, from the tour that enabled them to build their brand.
I think one important thing to understand about golf, is that while lots of the players may not have been at their best anymore, fan interest rarely has much to do with current world ranking. You put Phil on a golf course against the worlds top 5 and more people will be watching phil than they guys battling to win. Lots of the ones who went to LIV were the more high profile players who fans tune in to watch.
I hope he has.
I genuinely believe he allowed his involvement in the political arguments affect his game.
The last 2 events, although not at his best, he’s showing very good signs of getting there.
Hopefully, with 2 majors on the horizon, he doesn’t get too embroiled and let it affect him again to those same levels.
I still say, if every top golfer played to their absolute best, Rory would be top of the pile.
Not sure he ‘allowed’ it, but undoubtedly affected his game
Yup, poorly worded, but you know what I mean.
fixed it for ya.
Yeah; climate catastrophe is all China’s fault. 
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Top 10 polluters
However, most of this pollution comes from just a few countries: China, for example, generates around 30% of all global emissions, while the United States is responsible for almost 14%.In the ranking below you can find the 10 countries that produce the most emissions, measured in millions of tons of CO2 in 2019.
- China, with more than 10,065 million tons of CO2 released.
- United States, with 5,416 million tons of CO2
- India, with 2,654 million tons of CO2
- Russia, with 1,711 million tons of CO2
- Japan, 1,162 million tons of CO2
- Germany, 759 million tons of CO2
- Iran, 720 million tons of CO2
- South Korea, 659 million tons of CO2
- Saudi Arabia, 621 million tons of CO2
- Indonesia, 615 million tons of CO2
waste of time, who was keeping track.
Obviously not the “advanced” nations.
Climate change is nothing to do with them and entirely the fault of the developing nations now.
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‘Of course there is hypocrisy here too. Sporting stars and supporters are hammered for taking the Saudi coin, while at the same time few question Britain when it exports billions of pounds in weapons to the country and receives billions of pounds in foreign investment in return’
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As for the top ten polluters you’ll falling down the list if you are not using what you are pumping out of the ground.
And developing nations do have every right to criticise the west on that.
If you want to pretend that sport won’t be effected you only have to look at New York and the Yankees this very evening. That gets worse.
climate change thread is over there, guys ------>
Thing is it’s all connected.
As much as you don’t want to discuss it.
“Get on with the game” “take politics out of sport”.
You literally can’t if politics has decided to enter it as a means to look better and the very environment you want to play in is at risk, the Yankees is an extreme example but the toxic air in cities is doing no one any favours and any move to change that seems dismissed by those who seem to believe it’s all fine.
And then you’ve got Golf whose carbon footprint of its fake environments can’t be great.
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Tell me again how golf is connected to climate change please? Are we blaming the Saudi’s for global warming? Because if we do, then we have to chat with this guy
Who is he?
Golf has thousands of courses World wide that aren’t particularly the most natural of places.
But if we are going about SA and the people of that country, would they prefer a class world health care system or know their state effectively owns several football clubs and the world of golf?
As for they are one of the least polluters great but OPEC doesn’t use it’s money just to act as a neutral body it sits there and feeds into politics blocking changes radically needed.
If we continue to use as we have and temperatures continue to rise as they are then do you really think sport will be immune? And golf with its over reliance on water will be the one that struggles the most.
In fact nighttime golf is probably the future rather than a one off.
So there you go all connects.