I agree with Hope’s post but for slightly different reason. If that 100-130m then gimps us from buying any other key targets for the next year or so, then I’d also be concerned. However good Jude is, he’s not going to be worth 2-3 players that we need right now.
Also, Hope is the only one who’s consistent in not wanting oil money and also accepting that we can’t make these kind of transfers without that. The rest of you want to have your cake and eat it too. 
Agreed.
Some people have this romantic notion that Jude is different from all other footballers, and isn’t money orientated.
Don’t know what his salary is at Dortmund, but I’d bet my house that if this deal reaches final negotiations and Liverpool say, look Jude, we’ll pay you the same as you’re getting at Dortmund, he’ll tell them to fuck right off.
I think there’s a lot of space in between what he’s getting at Dortmund, and what City will pay off the books.
Precisely my point.
People gushing over the bromance with Henderson, and Bellingham’s supposed love for and desire to join Liverpool, citing that he’s not money orientated.
If us and City both meet Dortmund’s asking price, but City offer double the salary that we do, guess what happens next.
I agree with @Hope.in.your.heart here, as promising a player as he seems to be, splashing out £100 million plus on a teenager is a massive risk, not matter how it might have played out on Football Manager
I would actually wonder what happens in this scenario. Maybe I’m just too idealistic, but I think there’s a very strong chance that he might still prefer us. I’m just basing this off the interviews with him and articles about him that I’ve read, though.
Have none of you ever turned down a job offer that paid more because there were other more important considerations?
That’s a trade off that is even more easy to make when the lesser salary is still “never have to work a day in my life” money. So let’s be real, he might make more money elsewhere, but at the level we would pay him would that difference have any real impact other than in a dick measuring contest? Is there any restaurant he wont be able to eat at? Holiday he cannot afford? Car he cannot drive? Fuck, even the single most expensive house o the market in Cheshire is perfectly in reach with a middle of the road Liverpool salary. What would he really lose out on by taking only the ridiculous weekly salary from us as opposed to the twice ridiculous one?
sometimes we need to reassess the wage thingo.
100k a week is massive, dont get me wrong…but its ‘only’ 5.2m a year, in the sceme of things at that level its not that great a wedge that cant be made up if you really believe its the right move from a football longevity POV.
lets look at Bale…or winston Bogarde…or any number of those guys who traded off longevity for cash…aside from the fact that at some point theyd be better having a fulfilled career as thats the kind of stuff you dont truely realise until you get older…but imagine the imaging rights, the branding, the future prospects be it with in the media or on the park, as well as extending his career a further few years at a higher level, Bale would have gotten had he left Madrid for football reasons.
Look at Gerrard for example…i bet he was on less coin weekly than quite a few players of that era, but id imagine hes ammassed a larger pot of gold and as a footballer, has a better story to tell.
Maybe Jude can be that at any level…but itd have to feel right…
that 5million (per annum) isnt exactly looking so insurmountable now…even if it was that much in the first place
not saying its not a large factor…but its startring to feel as though at a certain level, some players are starting to plot a career a bit better, not just a next contract.
Tangential thought but I wonder how much of a factor wages even are thesedays. In America, NIL now means that college athletes can be paid via sponsorships and some of those deals are huge - for kids who are playing an ‘amateur’ form of the game.
Bryce Young, for example, signed one worth $3.4m.
If these are going out to 20 year olds who haven’t even started their careers yet then I wonder how much is going to the professionals. LeBron James famously got a $1b contract off Nike and it allowed him to accept lower contracts for his team - thereby giving the team the ability to sign better players to play with him.
I think of Ashley Cole’s story about nearly crashing his car in anger at the wages Arsenal offered him about 20 years ago. Nowadays I bet there is more wrangling over the % of image rights kept by the club.
If he comes to us despite being offered shit loads more elsewhere, then he’ll have my respect.
Unfortunately, lots of footballers don’t think that way.
Gini springs to mind.
I don’t think it fair to compare Gini and Jude in this way as they were/are at different stages of their careers. Gini was looking for perhaps his final contract as he was towards the end of his while Jude is more likely to be focusing on his development with the majority of his career still ahead of him and may therefore be willing to accept a discount to his potential short term earnings if he thinks it helps him later on or in some other way.
Wasn’t comparing them directly.
Shaun Wright Phillips then?
Massive prospect, playing regularly for City before they won the lottery.
Went to Chelsea, sat on the bench a lot, missed out on the World Cup as a result, ended up a nobody in football terms.
My point was about not all footballers thinking the same way.
And as stated already, If Bellingham comes to us despite being offered a pot more elsewhere then hats off to him.
Looking at how Liverpool have structured their deals in the past, it probably wouldn’t be 100k and that’s it, but with incentives and bonuses based on performance.
If Ox is at 125k, I don’t see why a so called generational talent couldn’t negociate something similar as a base.
If you were offered a job at a global elite company for the salary you’re making at your current regional firm, would you take it?
Yes.
But if another global elite company were offering double the salary to do the same job, I’d have to consider that too.
He will not be paid 200k per week at Liverpool, nor should he. If our current wage level is any hint, he should be looking at 100-150k which is the level that Nunez, Jota etc are paid. Bellingham is great but will Klopp see him as a must have like how he saw VVD for example, not sure he is at that level yet, nor do I think there are no other players that can be as good as him.
We shouldn’t need oil money to buy Bellingham - we’ve be very frugal for quite a while - but it does prob mean we can’t do much else. It would mean that we’d have bring in a second midfielder on the cheap or look to Bajcetic or Morton to step up.
Been said already. Mbappe is a fuckwit.
I completely agree. It is wrong to compare two players at different stages of their career.
From my point of view, Gini - through our most successful period of recent times - was always available, consistent and one of the first players on the teamsheet. Additionally, he was well respected in the squad, highlighted by him being selected as part of the captain committee.
@dane Any person, in any career wants to be paid what they feel they are worth and I believe Gini had earned the right to ask for more money. No, agreement was made, maybe down to money or maybe down to reassurances, different challenge.
I definitely have nothing but respect for Gini, he was professional throughout his time with the club and I will welcome him wholeheartedly whenever he returns to Anfield 
By whom?
I agree that over the last 12 months there has been a lot of negative press regarding his “alleged ” demands, making him out to be a primma donna and maybe rightly so. How much is this actually down to the French media? even the French President Macron called him to request that he stayed. To me this comes across as very suppressive.
In my opinion, after signing the new contract with PSG, Mbappe, is now out of our reach in terms of a viable transfer, unless major concessions were made by either party. This is a shame, as (all be it through rose tinted glasses) Klopp would be the perfect manager to manage his ability and the expectations placed upon him.
