Losing the midriff "wobble" or the TAN diet/exercise thread

13st 7ibs

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I’ll post it here, it could equally go in the AI thread.

I’m trialling one of those AI calorie counters to see if it makes life easier. Calorie counting works for me but it is a pain in the arse to do, with all the weighing etc.

So you basically take a picture and it does the rest, except it doesn’t. Yesterday took a picture of an orange. This orange was the size of a softball. It decided it was a mandarin. :person_facepalming: I’m finding that I need to build my confidence in the portion sizes it detects. So I’m weighing stuff again, for now anyway.

I’m also a little wary of some of the advice it’s giving. It’s basically saying cut calories by reducing carb intake. Not ideal for someone who rides their bike a lot. Ok it’s saying cut down on the biscuits. Fine.

So im 13st 9Ibs.

I’ve put on two pounds but i think I lost a bit too much two weeks ago via stress of house purchase. I then went on a lads holiday to Lanzarote where I have been drinking every day for 5 days.

So 2Ib gain I’m happy with. I don’t really want to go below 13st 10 but 13st 9 is fine.

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Are you still taking small doses @Walshy07?

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Yep only 30ml instead of 60ml

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There are amazing things happening in this space right now.

Ozempic is is kind of like the Hoover of the space, a brand name so ubiquitous that the general public refers to everything as Ozempic. But this is the Novo Nordisk brand name for a molecule called Semaglutide, something that is in the class referred to as GLP1 agonists. It isnt technically a first generation of this class, but it is the first generation that really took off. The common brands here are Ozempic, Wegovy, and Trulicity, Victoza and Saxenda as related same gen versions of GLP1 agonists based on slightly different molecules.

Recently an upgrade to a dual receptor therapy called Tirzepatide came out. This also activates a related receptor called GIP (glucose-dependent insulinotropic polypeptide) and the initial data has shown it to be a surprisingly big improvement with no real evidence of increased downsides. The popular brand names for this are Mounjaro and Zepbound

Now Lilly are trying to get to market a triple action version called Retatrutide that also works on glucagon receptor and the results are astonishing. There is no brand name for this yet, but this will be on the market soon. Pharma rarely works like most markets, but the hope here is that with the approval of these dual and triple action therapies the cost of the original Semaglutide therapies will plummet making them far more accessible. They may not work quite as well as the newer alternatives, but if we never had these newer versions we’d have still been amazed at how effective these Semaglutide based therapies were.

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My brother in law is a scientist at Lilly and he was telling me all about that a little while ago, saying it was going to change the market and have loads of other applications too.

Yeah Lilly really have exploded in the last couple of years. The success of Ozempic/Wegovy drove incredible growth for Novo but now Lilly own the top 3 next gen versions. It’ll be interesting from a purely business school case study perspective what Novo are able to do commercially with Ozempic/Wegovy after it is relegated to a third tier option, and whether they can effectively pivot to lower cost/increased useage sort of model.

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My feed has been full of oral GLP-1 supplements of late. I’ll be honest, I looked at a few of them, but some of the ingredients didn’t look great options with my ckd.

So calorie counting it is. The cravings are nuts.

There is no such thing as a GLP1 supplement, but absolutely loads of scams trying to market completely unrelated products in that way to take advantage of people’s interest in the treatments. Steer clear.

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Typical example.

Not for me.

Yeah its utterly bullshit. All of it.

EDIT: Hang on, its called Colon Broom? Haha. Yeah if you lose weight on that then I think we understand what the real mechanism of action would be

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Just did the first pull up of my life. Something I never even came close to doing and never expected to so didn’t even try. Thought why the fuck not and got a pull bar and surprised I was able to do it without much trouble. Little uncontrolled, swinging all over the place, but fuck it I’ll take the small wins. Felt like getting over a mental hurdle more than a physical one.

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Nice one. I’d be happy being able to get up off a chair right now.
Takes a good few minutes which includes a significant planning period.

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13st 7Ibs

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13st 6 1/2 IBS

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13st 6Ib

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Nice and steady now @Walshy07.

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So I’ve been following this channel since I got back into cycling. Well, I should say this channel is partly responsible for getting me back on a bike.

And I find the the whole thing around diet, fueling and so on fascinating. I was actually getting to grips with it just before my accident. All gone tits up since, as I’m still injured.

But the latest stuff in here is interesting, particularly if you’re into more endurance based sports. They do discuss short workouts too as well. It’s a bit long it still good I think.

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