According to Wiki information, when Chelsea sold Guehi to CP in a past life, they inserted certain buy back conditions or a sell on percentage retainer.
It might be Chelsea that come back in for him at some point..!
Whatever happens, we have 4months to form a contingency plan
Surprised to see the criticism being levelled at Glasner. I understand we’re all a bit frustrated, but he has done the best possible thing for Crystal Palace, which is his remit as their manager.
Putting Parish in a position where he has to choose between no Glasner and Guehi or keeping both has resulted in Palaces team being much stronger for the next 6 months/entire season. No wonder the Palace fans are happy.
Disagree with the assessment that he’s difficult to work with as well. Earlier in the window it was clear one of Guehi or Eze would go, and he was ok with losing one of them, just not both. He clearly understands that a club like palace will have a revolving door of talent, just that you can’t shove it all out in one window - entirely reasonable from him. His job isn’t to pander Parish’s money making desire, it’s to do the best possible job he can with Palace and he is actively fighting to maintain the conditions where he can do that. At Frankfurt likewise it wasn’t that they needed to sell that annoyed him but how much they sold in one go. He’s not stupid, he knows that ins and outs are part and parcel of building up a club - he just wants it done in a more measured way than Frankfurt did kr Palace tried. Fair play to him.
Honestly I have more respect for him over how he’s done this. I think if it wasn’t us who missed out Guehi, but Chelsea or City, we’d all be unified in praise of his strong conviction over maintaining some continuity with his squad and prioritising his clubs chances.
As for the mercenary comments, I don’t think he’d be fighting this hard to keep a core player if he was thinking of immediately fucking off for the next job offer. Obviously if something like arsenal or Bayern came in for him I’d see him going, but I don’t think he’ll bin off palace for just anywhere.
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Has he though?
He knew a minimum 5-6 weeks ago that Guehi was not willing to sign a new deal and that this is really the last window they can cash in on him, having a confirmed offer of £35M. Does refusing to sell Guehi and keep him for an extra 12 months and lose him for nothing beat and injection of £35M cash into the club which could probably really use that amount of cash?
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I could buy most of this…
Except
A deal was done, medical completed, Guehi statement released. Its a cuntish thing that was done to the player. They had time to say no to all offers, their behaviour stank.
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That would be my only concern, depends if he wants to be loaned out to Germany or France.
Also that interview were he says his friends are in Liverpool or Manchester would suggest a player who would probably not be drawn to staying in London. Man City might be a concern though if they continue like now I doubt they would be much of an issue in January.
I wouldn’t want to leave it to a free for all when he became free which I think is evidently likely now, unless someone buys him in January.
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There was greed demonstrated from the CP board.
Meaning, in selling Eze for more money than they would get for Guehi… because his value was way higher, one of the two ‘leavers’ had been established.
When the greed raised its head, and they wanted to top up the Eze money, Glasner has said “you can go to fuck”…
We lose a player because of it…
If it had been a case of Guehi already being sold, and Eze was the one remaining, if Glasner had offered his resignation if Parish decided to cash in the £67m from a late Arsenal bid… Glasner would have been collecting his P45 by now…!
We should line up a ready replacement in case we need one in January
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Absolutely not. Palace have one of the smallest budgets, if not the lowest in the league. their revenues are relatively low partially because they don’t attract much tv money. Their stated model under Parish is to bring in players, develop and sell them to allow them to reinvest funds into the squad. While also trying to improve revenue from the stadium etc.
I don’t know their position under PSR/ FFP, and they’ve managed to cover their spending this season through the sales of two players, so it’s probably not critical. And, we don’t really know the full context of the discussions and agreements between the board and Glasner.
But there is a real risk to Palace that not going through with the sale may hamper their ability to fund future transfers.
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Just a thought. In January Konate will be able to sign a pre contract agreement with Real Madrid, if they still want him by then.
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He was open about only one of Eze and Guehi going. Us fannying about over a couple of million while spending significantly more elsewhere and only trying after Eze was gone is why this transfer didn’t happen this window. If we’d bid 40 before Eze was gone they’d have taken it, Guehi would be here, and Arsenal would’ve had to deal with Glasner scuppering their Eze transfer.
Money from Conference league, better league finish with Guehi in the team, potential conference league trophy - leads onto potential europa league money, potential for another good cup run. Theres a lot of money that could be made this season for Palace, which they have a better chance of by keeping one of Guehi/Eze. Becuase of our approach to the transfer its Guehi they’ve kept. Saying they’ve been fucked out of 35 mil is an odd thing when they’re gonna be backing themselves to have a good season again. Also, very similar to Trent last year when Madrid offered 20-odd. We decided we were better off having him for the season then letting him go, same with Konate this year if he goes. Nothing wrong with Glasner making a similar choice. Gives Palace another year to solve the CB gap that they’ll have next season.
Tbh I think they’d have preferred the transfers to be the other way round with Guehi going this season and Eze next, as evidenced by Parish’s willingness to still sell Guehi.
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it is unfortunate for Guehi and for us that he isn’t here, especially after getting so close. That’s on Parish underestimating Glasner’s spine over what has been said. However I respect Glasner for actually having the balls to hold Parish to only selling one of Eze/Guehi. So many managers of clubs at a similar level talk the same talk and see their teams gutted whenever something good starts happening. Glasner ensured that didn’t happen to Palace - could be what saves them from having the seasno we all expect Brentford to have this year.
Parish however does come out of this looking a bit silly. A consistently held position over the transfer would’ve been better; flip flopping over whether or not a deal will happen is not a strong look.
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To be fair to Jack, there’s alot of pile in on him. We’re in very rarified space here, to be completely honest. Had a little cricket festival on Sunday and had a chat with a Man U fan, Chelsea fan, some Arsenal fans and a City fan. Not by design, just happened to be a break between tournaments and a group of guys were standing together, the PL came up and guys are ‘oh, United me, you? Chelsea etc’ and so the discussion started.
Random group of guys who mostly all would not be out of place on Blue Moon. Not saying we should be Blue Moon but perhaps be a little less elitest, if that’s the term, in our view of the game as I can pretty much say that it’s not shared by a vast number of people.
Back to Jack. Don’t necessarily agree with him but he got done one by someone asking how we went from some posters to having him and it’s been dogs abuse since which hasn’t sat quite well with me. As a whole, that sort of pile in is beneath us.
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Yep
We can have a vehement disagreement, but leave it at that.
Who was open? I’ve seen nothing to say there was an agreement between Glasner and Parish that only one would be sold. The agreement according to Glasner (in an article by the Athletic) was only that if Guehi was sold, there would be a replacement.
Palace have spent about 70m euros this summer, while bringing in about the same from two deals. I’m not sure if selling Guehi would have been enough on its own to prevent them from selling Eze.
Can only agree with this. That’s top behaviour from this lad. I hope we go in for him again soon.
I also think Ibou dithering on his contract offer has delayed LFC being more decisive in bringing in his direct replacement, hence the to and fro with the timing of the Guehi commitment.
That said, we seemed to have played a blinder in giving Ibou the time and respect to announce his thoughts regarding a future transfer..or not… only for CP to scupper the whole cunning plan we had in place.
We need to do the honourable thing re Guehi, and go back in January, but we also had to do the honourable thing with Ibou… and give him time to assess his own future -
Losing Ibou for free would be a secondary blow after the TAA debacle… Whether we try and get some funds for selling him in January, remains to be seen… but obviously, only if Guehi is heading down the M6 to us as his replacement at the same time… If he is not, Ibou gets to stay full season, and we lose out on a fee for him..!
Gonna have no problems defending against tall players. Of any height 
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While I’m firmly for our “no dickheads” policy since Jurgen came on board, and while I’m uncomfortable with the manner in which both Isak’s and Wissa’s transfers played out, they have both been adamant that there were gentleman’s agreements for both to move.
In Guehi’s case it’s been clear that he’s perfectly happy to ply his last season at Palace and go on a free. Yes, he said Liverpool only, but he wasn’t looking to leave, Palace wanted to cash in on him.
Two different situations.
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Guehi might feel differently, now he’s had his Liverpool move taken away at the very last minute. Mentally he was a Liverpool player and then he wasn’t. We’ll just have to wait and see how this plays out.
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I don’t think this is true.
We had a bid of 35m on the table for weeks. It was clear that the barrier to the deal getting done wasn’t the bid, it was Palace getting in another CB.
Fans seem to put a lot of stock in the idea of ‘making a bid.’
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