Post match: Burnley v Liverpool (EPL 13/2/22 2pm)

These days flagging for offside is still the most visible part of the assistant referee’s job, but their ability to make mistakes has been shifted to the other rules of the game that referees can’t do alone and VAR is not (yet) used for. And they make plenty of mistakes on throw-ins.

He and Lawro are the only two BBC pundits who had the nous to predict the current top three as their end of season placings. Let’s hope they were wrong about that as well.

Match of the day last night. Did a comp of Burnley’s chances to stress how unlucky they had been and how Liverpool had relied on Alisson to bail them put.

Notwithstanding the fact you are allowed to have a good keeper doing good things, they were all offside.

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I didn’t watch match of the day because I thought that would happen. If it had been City, it would be described as ‘a professional performance, from a side that obviously knows how to win games, despite the horrible conditions and an opponent fighting for Premier League survival’.

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Always bugs me commentators/pundits say ‘TeamX had a goal ruled out for offside…’ They didn’t have a goal, it was offside, it was never a goal!

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Commentators just generally bug me all the time. I find all of them annoying and usually watch the game with no sound.

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I’m not even going to watch it because I know this is what will be shown. The 2-3 minute highlights from Sky on YouTube had two of them in too. I don’t consider a clear offside chance that is spurred or saved a highlight from the game. Pre-VAR it would have been flagged and no one would give it a second thought. Now, it’s evidence of the attacking team carving the defending team open and not that the defending team are playing the offside trap expertly.

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Bar Ally McCoist I’d happily not listen to any of them.

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My stream had no sound at all and I’m guessing that’s a big reason that I saw the performance as a very comfortable one whereas other people seemed to be pissing themselves everytime Burnley hoofed to a guy 5 yards offside.

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Honestly its like a basic test on how much you actually understand football commentating on our high line.

https://twitter.com/Tactical_Times/status/1493167888815038467?s=20&t=5K1jCQV_ZqzENDtv2K_Fqw

All offside, yet a man who has a potato for a head will try and tell you we were lucky and Alisson saved us 7-8 times in the game.

“Liverpool got lucky there”, clearly super lucky that we train to catch teams offside and execute it perfectly 9 times out of 10. Van Dijk literally told Rio after the Leicester game it’s trained extensively, it’s our game plan and is high risk, high reward.

Fab knows…

https://twitter.com/DAZNFootball/status/1492910191960113154?s=20&t=DPyH2P2eRM1TOl8wwvc70g

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I stopped watching MOTD in the early 90s - when it was either sort of ok or I was a lot more naïve. The odd time I bump into it now, it seems to have become a lot more about creating “talking points” rather than reporting/showing the game. Sport really is one of the few events in the news where you can watch it and have as valid an opinion as the person next you. You don’t need these “experts” to give you their “insights” - cut them out and show more of the footy! If they have to have an expert, have a referee that can explain the decisions the on field referee made…

Off topic but the same goes for the news. There is almost no point watching any news or reading an in-depth article as there is almost always an angle that is being played out to create a (usually controversial) talking point. It is not news, it is “The News”. The Ukraine situation is an interesting case and point. Who is offside, who is onside, what is the game plan, who is indulging in shithousery and what actually is the shithousery? There’s no clear answer these questions and all the time the situation is muddied further by more (largely repetitive) reports and various politicians chasing the limelight to deflect from home issues.

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I didn’t see the game but the two chances the sky sports highlight thing showed seemed both off side.

In fact what you take from that clip above is you suggest it was a masterclass in defending. One of our better ones as we have been caught in the past once or twice earlier on in the season.

Brentford was a perfect case in point

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MOTD same thing every week:

  • Show 5mins of a game.
  • Show goals again and pundit gives opinion.
  • Another pundit complains about defending, attitude or shape (using same clichés).
  • Both pundits give opinions on the referee.

(Repeat x 6)

  • Rubbish pun by Lineker to finish
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Pundit complaining about defending tries to be Hansenesque and fails miserably

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Hansen had become unwatchable by the end - every week it was the same dreary tone of moan, laden with adjective after adjective.

What’s hard to watch is the pundits doing so when there is so much more data, information and video available now than when Hansen watched matches in prep for MOTD.

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Yeah I’d say the problem is that they’re still Hansen/Lawensen-esque on MOTD, which looks really aged now compared to Sky’s coverage

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But he was at least knowledgeable

There is a MOTD for the kids on a Sunday morning occasionally I’ve caught it but it’s just highlights no talking heads rubbish, Not sure if Iplayer make it available but I’d prefer that.

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Guilty pleasure number one. MOTD. Love it, always have. It’s like watching polished Goldbridge. Always opposing stances, arguments over penalties and Gary (who apparently is in absolute cunt) just quietly laughing to himself all the way through. Entertainment, not hard nosed technical strategical breakdown. If you want that, go for TIA The Review, deep shit.

Tô be honest I’m not asking for great tactical analysis, something better than I’d find on Twitter is all I ask for.