He’s not good enough and he has no consistency to his performances. He’ll have a game where he looks great and then be anonymous for the next month. He constantly flatters to deceive. This isn’t knee-jerk, it’s based on watching him for 4 1/2 years.
At his age and with his undoubted ability and size he should be bossing games on a regular basis. It’s pretty clear by now he’s never going to do that anywhere near enough.
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I agree. He looks great for 2 games then is invisible for the next few.
Theres a few that need moving on which is why next season is a season of transition. The new manager needs time to get his players and ideas across.
I think some of the youngsters were starting to look tired and weren’t benefitting from it anymore as they didn’t have the time to look back and learn from it. Bradley is one who did fantastically however imo looked like he was about to fall off a cliff at the end of the stint. Once he’s able to look at it clearly he’ll be all the better for it and use it at another level and next season.
As for the seniors perhaps they were rushed back however I think it was necessary. We can not blame the management or the players imo just rue the chances missed (which we believe will get sorted for next season). The squad Klopp has left us with is so much better than we started with with youngsters lurking in the background. We’ll see!
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My Arsenal supporting boss wont have it that we are out of it. He said we all have to play Spurs and on their day they could beat Arsenal and City then lose to us!
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This really feels like the age old Liverpool fan mentality of if a player isn’t a world class, automatic starter, bossing games, then they have to be sold. It’s a squad game and we need loads of players.
Jones is a really good player to have around your squad, and there is no way we should be selling him.
He reminds me a lot of Gini. Clearly doing what the manager wants (Klopp is at pains to say so), fans don’t see it so he must be shite. Another way he’s like Gini is that whenever he’s in the team he gets shit, but we really miss him when he isn’t around.
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A minor point but that’s been the way of things for quite some time. Free headers from set-pieces are the norm these days.
I can not think of many though I’d like us to get a top notch defensive midfielder, I’ve been calling for one for years now. 
I don’t know what else Jones has to do to prove that he is good enough. As for his consistency issues, they stem from his injuries.
It would be incredibly short-sighted to get rid of him.
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I’m sorry but I’m just not having that. Some level of consistency is required and having 1 great game every 6 or 7 isn’t enough.
I agree if the club are happy to keep Jones purely as a squad player as opposed to being a regular starter then by all means keep hold of him but I just don’t see him turning into the player we all hoped for.
Definitely. But in those seasons the manager’s spark has been able to get us out of a funk.
The boss is only human and I don’t think he has anything left in the tank to lift the team.
In his whole career he has 7 PL goals and 5 assists. That’s going back to the title winning season. I know he’s had injuries but I’d expect those figures over a season, not over his whole career to date. He just doesn’t produce anywhere near enough.
Jones career with Liverpool spans about three years. Prior to that he was a young player getting the odd sub game. In the title winning season he got six appearances, five from the bench, playing 122 minutes in total - about a game and a half worth. The following season he played more, which you’d expect given the injury crisis we had. He plays 24 times with 11 off the subs bench, and playing 1177 minutes, about 13 games worth. Probably get less time if other players are fit.
By the end of that season, he has turned twenty. That’s the same age bracket as Conor Bradley, Bobby Clark and James McConnell - players we treat as bonus lads we don’t expect much from.
It simply isn’t fair to expect a lot from over these two years. I think the last three years represent his senior career - in which he started getting more appearances and wasn’t really considered a young player anymore.
In these three seasons, he has
21/22 - 27 apps, 1530 mins (17 full game equivalent)
22/23 - 25 apps, 1215 mins (13 full game equivalent)
23/24 - 34 apps, 2000 mins (22 full game equivalent)
This is a career I think you can best describe as ‘stop start’. He has had a lot of injuries at bad times. The 22/23 campaign was pretty much a write off until he comes back in for the last ten and looks our best player in the run in.
There is a lot more to come from Curtis Jones. I’m not sure he’ll ever be what you want him to be - which seems to be an elite midfielder who can dominate games and win 15-20 points a season on his own. But he can be a really good contributing squad player. The kind ever team needs.
As I said above the player he really reminds me of is Wijnaldum - in the way he sits deep, retains possession, recycles the ball and keeps us ticking. Gini joined us an experienced player two years older than Curtis is now, and played almost every game for six years. He got 22 goals. Every year there were fans criticising his output, putting him on ‘get rid’ lists, and wondering what he contributed. We fucking missed him when he left.
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We did very well indeed. It’s just that I don’t think what we are seeing with Salah since his return is decline, I think it’s form, and I do think he has more of his best form still in him, and that he is able to provide the class and numbers another season or two. I wouldn’t bet that any replacement we buy has better chances of providing that than Salah finding his best form.
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You’d think…
Well, not nothing…
We haven’t scored…which is one of the very rare cases this season…
Jones is a mid-lower level Prem player and will hopefully cut out a good career for himself but his future isn’t at LFC, he simply isn’t at the level required I’m afraid and I’ve said the same all along. Does he walk into a Palace, Wolves or Fulham side? Not so sure.
There has been little to no improvement in his game for 3 years, grown physically and now has a lot more experience under his belt but in terms of style, ability, technique it’s the same every time. He doesn’t take any risks, way too many sideways and back passes, doesn’t look to penetrate, takes far too long on the ball. Very much a style over substance player.
I see you’ve slept on it, and decided to keep talking utter shite
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There has to be accountability, losing the title at Palace and Everton is simply unacceptable and no amounts of sleep will make me forget the ending to this season. I won’t ever forget Stevie’s last season and I sure won’t ever forget Klopp’s.
He should taken my advice and had a wank. He’d feel a lot better now.
And yet after a recent game Klopp came out and made the point that Curtis was the only player doing what he’d been told to do.
It’s like Gini Wijnaldum de ja vu.
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