I said in the match thread that it sounded like the fans were respecting the momentâs silence all game. What had happened to our big CL atmospheres?
He was left covering 2 players running in opposite directions⌠he hesitated to cover the one running across towards the center of goal (rightly in my opinion). That player left it for Kudus running back against the past. He recovered and cut down the angle without over committing. To be fair it was a. pretty stunning shot into the upper 90 (killing spiders as the kids here say). When he struck it, I thought it had no chance to get on target because of how much he had to turn his body to get his foot around the ball and toward goal. VD maybe could have been done better, but heâd been left outnumbered on an island so he did his best to force the lowest percentage shot in the situation.
Where has Fabinho gone?
Wow, this is a good analysis!
I would argue that a fit Hendo in that situation would have been in fact tracking Berghuis - particularly after he burnt past Trent, and Hendo would have called Trent to come inside behind him to take up the space between Matip and the ball carrier. If its a slow buildup and the opposition takes it down the wings, the wide midfielder is usually coming out to double team the ball carrier. This absolutely is not happening with Elliott at this point in time. It is something for the coaches to look at and help him with.
Fab still really pisses me off with this goal. Just because he is nowhere close to being where he should be as that ball is passed to Bergwijn.
The only thing positive Iâll say is that it was highlighted pre-match just how well Ajax do this. Using width to load one side to make space on the other. Have a look where Matip, VVD, and Fab start in the first still, and look where Ajax are about to play it. Our entire defence needed to slide across and Ajax moved it quick enough that the lag in midfield meant plenty of space.
Why would Hendo track Beghuis he is covered by Trent if, Hendo vacates the position where Harvey is then there is a big hole in that area with an easy pass into a CFâs feet, all that needs to happen is for Trent to cover the runner.
I am perplexed with having to move several players around on a pitch when in reality if Trent covers Berghuisâs run, as Trent wasnât marking anyone just before the final pass and is the closest to Berghuis, it comes to nothing
I hope Pep and Klopp are reading this.
If they can channel a percentage of the football wisdom posited on here we will never concede a goal again.
Lads bringing their under-8s coaching knowledge to finally get us playing
The ball was slipped behind Trent. No FB is immune to that. And when that happens, you need teammates in close proximity to cover for you while you recover. Which is what our wide midfielders tend to do. I havenât got a problem with Trent being beaten as it happens. I would have had a problem if he didnât sprint back to try to defend the cross, which is exactly what he did.
Klopp has spoken many a time about compressing the field when defending (for less running but also to help in support and closing gaps) and expanding the field when attacking.
I coach under 8s, and for a while now Iâve been concerned at the shoelaces on our team. Some of them donât have shoelaces at all.
I donât want to criticise Klopp, cos I love him to bits. But in all his time here, Iâve not once seen him run on to the pitch to quickly tie a players shoelaces. If he isnât doing these basics, then what else is he doing with his time.
I have watched football and LFC in particular for 60+ years and I still have no idea about tactical stuff so always avoid this sort of discussionâŚbut I have to say the level of knowledge and expertise on this forum on all sorts of subjects never ceases to amaze meâŚ
I can just imagine what Shanks would say about the term âfalse 9â. I havenât the foggiest what that means myself.
Google has helped a lot perhaps!
False 9s, double pivots, inverted Christmas treesâŚall fashionable terms of their time maybe?
Pressing wasnât a football term ten years ago, no more than false whatevers âŚ
But I am sure you can remember Villa playing Six at Eleven?
There are a couple of reasons why but I guess we donât really know what the players are being instructed to do and therefore who isnât getting it right.
To my mind, we play in a way where we want to keep that offside line. The players donât drop every time someone makes a run as the offside line depends on the four of them keeping in a line and banking on the pass being mistimed or the ball being played into an area that isnât that dangerous (like down the sidelines) and therefore we have time to recover.
If Trent starts back peddling when he sees that guy making the run, he breaks that line and is more likely to play him onside. But a midfielder tracking a midfield runner can put the breaks on when they hit our backline and therefore maintain that line and play the guy offside. If they mistime it and the guy is onside, well theyâre already moving and therefore are able to recover far quicker than having the fullback turn and chase back from a standing start.
Weâre getting killed by runs and passes between fullbacks and centre backs. So many of the goals we concede come from that channels and on the right hand side in particular. If that is midfield runners then itâs not a stretch to think the midfield should be offering the backline some protection. Too often they arenât pressuring the man, cutting off the passing lane or tracking the runner. Youâd expect them to be doing at least one of those.
I think part of the issue is that so much about the pressing game is focused on keeping the game in front of you and stepping forward to create pressure. Right now with as badly as weâre doing that way too much of the game is being played behind our midfieldâs backs, and 1) thatâs a vulnerable position in general, and 2) weâre just far less well drilled at responding to that.
Yeah, they just have much better midfield cover than us
I disagree, he was the closest player and got caught ball watching and actually stepped toward the ball. He is playing professional football and his awareness needs to improve.
Please tell me if he had tracked the runner rather than ball watching that the situation would have still occured?
However Trent didnât hold the line he stepped forward and was then completely unaware of the runner. As I said we had a reasonable defensive setup but no pressure on the ball and then we need to be aware of runners.
I do think it was a good pass and Matip covered well just unfortunate that it went between his legs. I have seen far worse situations, but we need to learn from it and everyone trying to move several players around and blaming them when all it needed was more awareness from Trent is beyond me.
The worse thing is it being played behind our defenses backs 