all true…
You kept sticking up for him in Pre match he shouldn’t for me be on the pitch however you cant see what Thiago brings, rarely gives the ball away and plays offensive passes, unfortunately half the times our players cant control them and how does he cure that and the lack of movement
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I just hope we can solve it, likelihood is we will be back in 5th on Saturday so we need to hope some of our lads are back Sunday, we can’t keep doing the same thing hoping it changes.
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Well said matey
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I’m still speechless we have to endure origi and ox yet minamino was fucked off.
If ever two subs make us worse it’s ox and origi.
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Just for a moment, I want to chronologically put all positions we changed tonight:
Shaqiri starts on the left for the first time he’s at the club and probably even going back to his early Bayern days.
The experiment is crap and we end the first half with Shaqiri in Bobby’s central position and Bobby goes to the left. Bobby who had to go so deep back in midfield because we couldn’t really get going against Brighton’s 3-6-1 (and that ‘1’ is not even a proper striker anyway, he’s also defensively busy).
Second half, Klopp listens to me and we flip the positions of our 8’s. I think it’s natural that Thiago manages better at LCM than Milner does. I don’t know why we persist with the idea that our right sided 8 should play with more freedom than our left. Especially with Trent and Salah already on that side and our protection on the left. It was shortly lived, though.
Shaqiri goes to his natural position or at least closest to it. But it’s Salah who has to play up top against a deep block and Bobby who has to go to the left.
We concede a goal and then two subs. You know Gini is crap and struggling when in that situation we keep Milner on the pitch as a single 6. Origi goes up top. We’re trying to turn the result with Milner and Origi as our two spine players in midfield and attack.
I’m not surprised we haven’t won this game.
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Well, we needed something to brighten up the post-match gloom.
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You missed Origi 
Exactly, can’t believe my eyes reading this thread
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Ah well, fuck it. The injuries have thrown everything out of whack this season. Nobody could have foreseen it and everything considered we’ve done pretty well so far. If we don’t win it this year there are reasons for it. I still know we’re the best club in the game and post-covid we’ll go on to dominate for years. It’s frustrating, but it’s just a blip - our bad fortune will slip away…
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I need her name for ‘research purposes’
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Hmm so saying the service he received was shite actually means I said he was good enough ok.
I was pulling my hair out at that. Finally someone breaks through the lines and is getting into a good position facing goal with options to shoot, pass, etc.
But then Origi comes from a standing point, taking the ball away, killing all momentum, allowing Brighton to pick up their man, and then aimlessly hitting it out for a goal kick.
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While I certainly agree with much of what you are saying we have struggled with this problem for some time. We managed to get round it to some degree in the last two seasons but there were still some awkward moments. Yes I agree the injuries etc. are a massive problem, there’s no continuity etc. but the likes of Thiago cant change things unless there’s a framework in place to deal with the problem of a low block. In truth there doesn’t appear to be one. We get to the 18 yard line and basically lose the ball. That was our 90 minutes today, time after time after time. Not only that we lose it in exactly the same place time after time.
All I’m saying is that we need a little rethink on how we tackle this issue. We need something a little new, something that the players can get confidence from and of course the opposition haven’t seen before. One idea might be to swap Salah to the left. It might mean he looks outside him more than turning inside all the time. Lets get round the back and turn defenses rather than trying to play through them.
Other than Origi I have zero issues with the players we have at all. I think we just need a few new ideas.
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Yep bizarre selection, as you say Mane still out, keep the diamond and start Jones who changed the game midweek.
But we go back to 433 with Shaqiri wide left?? The bring on Ox and Origi.
Utterly bizarre decisions.
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Yup I said it caught with us after Soton, I’ve been looking at top 4 for last couple of weeks anyhow.
Hope is we can see a return of some personal such as Jota, Fabinho and Mane and Davies and Kabak can kick on quick.
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This time last year (although we didn’t know it at the time) we’d pretty much already won it. The reason for the swing is purely the injuries.
Sort yourself out will you?
Thiago is defo not the problem.
The problem is the pedestrian pace, sloppy passing and the biggest issue for me against these type of teams (THIS SEASON, BECAUSE WE JUST POSTED 2 MAGNIFICENT POINTS TOTALS, YOU DON’T DO THAT IF YOU CAN’T PLAY AGAINST LOW BLOCK TEAMS) is the refusal to play give and go’s or one two’s. Thiago pops the ball into a forward with his back to goal and it comes straight back at him. Instead of the ball getting passed to the player, who then plays a little wall pass in for a player running on. A bit like using the wall in 5 aside.
Another point I’d like to make is Mo used to be excellent at receiving the ball and turning his player but since ref’s have allowed the league’s defender’s to manhandle, wrestle and push him over, then playing on has taken something away.