Difference between twatting the league and really struggling jaded? And would you have thought everybody in the team would feel the same? Simultaneously?
This is probably a debate for a different thread but I just can’t agree that the reason for our recent malaise is mental tiredness.
There will be other factors, no doubt. But how long has Mane been going for now? He didn’t have any rest last Summer and naff all this one either.
Lord only knows what’s happened to Salah’s ball control.
There will also be other factors like teams getting a little more savvy etc.
I suspect it’s an accumulation of several things because I sure as hell cant put my finger on any one specific reason.
For example. It could be “enter name here” fault.
No question there could be many answer. But Covid / end of season breaks only count if every team in the league is shit. It’s much worse but Klopp needs to work out why we’ve dropped off massively compared to every other team. We’ve gone from a juggernaught to a reliant robin whilst everybody else has got a bit worse. Find the reason, fix it, win the league.
And sell Origi.
They are still normal people with normal problems dude except when they go to work literally a billion people are watching their every move. Its a massively competitive and intense environment.
There is massive pressure playing for Liverpool and it is the ones who handle that pressure and stress that succeed. Alot of these guys are working and living away from their home country and families by extension. Its not as easy as your suggesting or every player would settle in, and be in the first team straight away.
Most top coaches, in any pro sport, will tell you that being talented aint enough. Its the mental aspects, attitude, intensity, attention to detail that make elite level players/coaches etc.
If there was any good time to get a break, it would be right now. Get back to Germany or wherever, let Pep take over for the rest of the season, and make a fresh start next summer. This won’t happen of course.
For what’s it’s worth, I don’t think that he’ll step down at the end of the season, especially if fans are allowed back in from next summer on. He wouldn’t want to quit in such special circumstances. It would look like quitting a sinking ship. He won’t do that.
I wanted him to hit him, hate Dyche.
But I am grateful for his beard and appearance 
Anyone else selfishly wishing that covid shuts the season down.
Theory for lack of goals:
the Mane Salah spat is real - and affecting our play
Bobby is caught in the middle and lost
love this, live this
Well!!! It surely couldn’t get any worse. A friend of mine who had been a lifeguard used to say to me. “When you’re sinking it’s sometimes best to drop to the bottom and then push on from the bottom”. We’ve hopefully hit that firm ground now. Let’s bend our knees and push off. Kick on from here and come bursting through the surface at the end of the season.
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This was something that frustrated me immensely after Firmino and Salah got subbed in. At least the front 3 dynamic prior to that was moving a lot more instinctively, even if we were still denied by bad luck and Pope. However, I noticed that once the two of them came on, we started hesitating just that split second longer, and became very reactive. In a game of fine margins, as our play usually is, everything seems to have gone to shit atthe moment. I don’t think it’s just a matter of the personnel, but everything just is that slight bit off, enough to knock us off our stride. The big difference between now and last season is that the officiating has become a lot more bent this season. Manholding seems to have become okay if it’s on Liverpool, but not the other way around. Not to mention handball, getting taken down in the box, etc.
I know there was the thing in his player thread about the supposed laziness, but to me he often doesn’t seem to come alive until something’s clicked in his head. That match where he utterly destroyed Everton with Shaqiri and Mané springs to mind. It’s almost like he’s on a completely different wavelength to the team at times, which allows him to do some proper game-changing stuff (the finest example being obviously the quickly-taken-corner), but also for him to appear utterly woeful while he’s trying to figure out what he ought to be doing. I cannot imagine it’s been easy for him when he’s not been getting regular minutes either, although I still think there’s an immense player in there.
Despite some of his woeful games however, if we give him some credit (although some seem determined not to), his defending has actually gotten a lot better, and there was even one recent game where he was the last man defending (and actually nicked the ball too).
There’s no denying the sentiment expressed elsewhere on here, that in the past his main problem was consistency, and yet this season so far he’s been consistently shit. However, anyone who looked at his performance in this game, and Firmino’s in the last few, and thinks that he did worse should have their eyes checked. I’m a big fan of Firmino, and I am convinced that when he’s in song, there’s virtually no one better at what he brings, not just the usual “oh he presses so well” or his link up play, but also there’s a deadly finisher in there. Yet, he’s been rubbish for the last few games, being terrible at all 3 of those, and Origi has done better in his 60 minutes in this match than that. Firmino would never find himself in a position to miss that shot (although admittedly that’s also because tactically it would usually be Mané or Salah who find themselves in that position), so I’m not sure where there’s so much ragging on Origi for that.
While I don’t expect Origi to be replacing Firmino on a regular basis unless he pulls that elusive consistency (of being good, rather than shit) out of his bag, I do think that at the moment, he ought to be given a shot to show what he can do.
Just to nitpick, we don’t actually have any data on the standard of NHS care, so the comparison is rather inappropriate.
Actually being a psychologist, I can tell you that playing football can and will make you mentally tired.
I can imagine that we’re probably being very conservative around the COVID situation. The matchday revenue is not a small amount, and we’ve already seen that TV deals can collapse. I don’t think it’s a far stretch to say that operating income may be adversely affected for a couple of seasons at least. Whether or not we win trophies (which is not as straightforward as many would believe), doesn’t really affect the reality that if we don’t manage our situation well, we could well see a massive crunch, especially cashflow-wise, if the current situation drags on.
I presume you could say that about windsurfing in the Maldives or jet-skiiing in Aruba?
