Post match: Nottingham Forest v Liverpool (EPL 22/10/22 12.30pm)

Fuming at that. We were away, on the counter with an overlap.

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On the flip side, we could use this season to develop Curtis, Elliot and Carvalho, while trying to qualify in the top four (still think there will be lots of inconsistancy in positions two to four).

Get a result against Ajax on Wednesday to qualify and then go deep in that competition. Need to sort out our away Prem form though.

Just like this post sums up yours, once a wum always a wum. Your opinion can’t be wrong it’s an opinion and not being stated as fact. But you’d argue the sky was light blue not blue. For an opinion to be wrong you’d need to provide categorical evidence to the contrary, not seen anything yet bar others opinion haha the irony.

Petty little person.

Agree.

Beating low blocks has never been about just getting a playmaker and them doing everything as people used to argue with Coutinho. You need good movement off the ball, particularly between the full backs and centre backs. We didn’t have that today.

He even took time to blow the whistle for the foul. He saw the ball breaking to our countering players, and shoved the whistle to his mouth.

Had the ball gone to a Forest player, no way on Earth would he have called a foul after that delay. He can’t use the excuse that he mistakingly blew too quickly.

T’was a badly composed squad because of the absences and the recent schedule of games.

But we’ve been here many times before in last few years and I feel like the excuses have been used up.

No pace upfront or out wide, nobody who could threaten with pace in 1v1 situations on the flanks or centrally.

Almost all the entire MF and forwards looking for ball to feet meaning we had possession without any cutting edge in the final third.

We actually had a little greater diversity in the squad last season…

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Knowing us it would’ve mounted to absolutely fuck all.

Fabio would’ve likely stopped on the halfway line after seeing some Forest player over his shoulder catching up to him.

And that’s pretty much the problem with this team, as we’ve seen far too often this season…nobody breaking their neck to make something happen. Just tippy tappy you have give it me back so I can give it you back and then jog about some more.

Ali again MOM , the sad thing this our level , this is our team plagued with unusual number of muscle injuries and lack of investment.
If any deluded person thought we can compete in this league with the like of curtis ( slow motion turn around loose the ball or backward pass ) then think again or carvalleho or even harvey then think again .
Salah cant operate without space and to create space u need midfielders that can create , ours might be in the future but now they are easily nudged of the ball and lack vision
Shoestring budget chronic lack of investment and clearly something in our preparation constantly causing muscle injuries

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We didn’t even need good movement. With Forest playing compact and having two on Salah, there was space ide on both sides. We were consistant in our sloppiness with the passes.

Klopp:

“There are no-brainers from a set-piece. You have to defend. We should have put the game to bed. We played in the first half with so many wrong passes. It was not a free-flowing performance. We have a limited squad playing three games in a week in these high-intensity matches”

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Typical. Anyone who disagrees with you is a WUM.

You’ve literally just repeated what you said and not addressed the point. Classic post from you.

@sgs pointed out the flaws in your statement, as per what I suggested makes an opinion wrong. What more evidence do you want?

Seems to me we’re always dealing with a limited squad and are perennially not able to adjust as well as others…

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And, as usual, out of the woodwork you come.

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Yes cryarses should be there moaning after all games :slight_smile:

You could forsee this…
After this team has been robbed of two titles in the last couple of years, after a magnificent season when we almost achieved excellence…then the slump.

Combined with huge injuries, loss of form, aging players, the emotional fallout of being cheated last season, then this had to happen.

No excuses, this is piss poor. Yes we should beat Forest.
Yes we should have signed a midfielder. Yes we will struggle to make CL at this rate.

But some of the billious entitled shite spouted during the match and here is beyond acceptable.

Of course criticism is allowed, and merited but in fairness the level of fucking nonsense is cringeworthy.

And the usual suspects out in force.

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We managed to somehow fail to get off a proper shot with most of our best chances. Virgil heading across goal for goal kicks instead of going for goal. Mo completely missing a kick. The ball dropping over a defender’s head and landing at one of our players caught on his heels and not able to make anything from it. I don’t know if the wind was a factor like it was on Wednesday, but that’s what it looked like. Which is even more reason to not try to make the extra pass because the more unpredictable the conditions are the more can wrong in that extra pass.

No, just the men who actually wear the red. Being frustrated at the performances is understandable. Attacking the players as people who can’t be bothered is worthy of pushback. In sports you always have to consider how long an athlete can be asked to go to the well and recognize the point at which they ask it of themselves and find their body not responding. It’s reasonable to question if a couple of our lads got themselves to that point with the efforts of last season. But there are no Ruddock’s in this group. No players content to just pick up a pay check without care for earning it.

He is pointing out the lack of passing options, not the lack of a passer. Thiago doesnt change that.

I saw him do it twice, and both times were either right or at least reasonable. Once because the ball went out of play, which requires him to call for a restart, and once was preventing us restarting the game after a foul so he could book the forest player. If he didnt book him then he wouldnt have been allowed to later on as refs either have to book the player at the next stoppage after the incident or they dont book them at all. With the foul occurring on the edge of our box the booking was surely the more appropriate choice.

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Bugger shit dam…that’s how I feel…come on boys…shout at each other, talk to each other, but lets get back to Liverpool…heads down and start fighting…

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Not winning could have been expected even with Thiago and Nunez in.

The Wednesday → Saturday 12:30h ko away game never worked for us. Even in season when we had fewer players out injured.

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Yet we seem to get it all the time?

It’s ridiculous, and I think you were calling it out even before the match, no?

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I’ll double down on it!

Yes, Salah has weighed in with a few goals and assists, the hat-trick from the bench in an easy CL game against Rangers boosting his numbers too, but I would still maintain that so far this season he has been way below his best.

We were backed into a corner on his deal, as he was either going to go on a Bosman or sign a new deal, so we did the best thing with limited options. With that said, since signing the deal he has not been worth the salary so far this season. Hopefully it is just form, as the whole team has been off too, but there might be a case to be made that Salah is plateauing and maybe starting a modest decline. I rarely see him run away from Prem fullbacks, for example.

I don’t want to overdo it and imply he is finished or crap, because he is an excellent player and there’s a lot more to come from him in a red shirt. Still, he hasn’t shown it nearly enough, this season.

Today at Forest I know we had Diaz, Nunez and Jota out, so it gets that much harder for the other strikers on show, as we are depleted, but that’s exactly the time when you want your world class and highest paid player to do something, even if against the odds. He gets paid big money to hopefully do big things. It didn’t happen today.

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What a disappointing result. We should have won this game, even if it was scrappy result. I was hoping something spectacular from Mo as he is paid the bucks, but he also needs space and service as well. Let’s hope some players are back from injury/absence for Wednesday. We are a depleted squad at the moment. We just have to get through this sh*t storm.

The team are playing 3 games a week and it is proving to show more injuries at the worst possible time. Maybe, the World Cup will be a blessing in disguise, so some players (those not going to the World Cup) can have some rest and Jurgen and his staff can sort out the problems. We do need a rebuild especially in midfield come the summer.

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