Post Match: Spurs, Hooper, VAR, PL v Liverpool (EPL 30/9/23 5.30pm)

I disagree. The BS offside would then mean the decision lost us two points instead of one.

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Jones red is harsh, but they can be given for that. Its all about the Diaz goal.

Itā€™s probably cost us all three. Iā€™m confident we would have won the game had Diazā€™ goal stood.

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Thisā€¦ added to many more that describe this team that is getting assembled, will probably drive us on, right to the finishing flag this seasonā€¦

ā€œThe volume increased from the knot of Liverpool supporters in the corner of the stadium shortly after the Diogo Jota sending off on 69 minutes. It was as though they anticipated something extraordinary, something that they could recount in years to come to their childrenā€™s children: that trip to Tottenham when we faced down Ange Postecoglouā€™s all-out-attack with nine men.

ā€œDominik Szoboszlai was the first to pick up on their hope. A new signing who already looks Liverpudlian to his core, he stopped in front of the fans and gestured frantically. They responded, raising the volume. Trent Alexander Arnold was next. He is Liverpudlian to his core and now, as the clock ticked on to 90 minutes, he implored the fans to give still more. And they did.

ā€œThe clocked had moved on to 95 minutes. Only seconds remained to achieve something momentous. Itā€™s one thing to hold out against a good team with ten men. To do so with nine, for more than 20 minutes against this Spurs team, would merit the performance of the season.ā€

Before Draper added: ā€œYet the goal Luis Diaz scored on 34th minute, which was somehow ruled offside by VAR Darren England when it appeared well onside, is a dagger to the body of fair play. Itā€™s understandable when officials got calls wrong in real time. If we now cannot trust the VAR to apply the rights lines and call the law correctly, then the whole rule of football law breaks down. On Saturday, the officials body had already apologised for a significant error. At least in admitting that so quickly they had some dignity much good it did Liverpool. ā€œWho does that help now?ā€ said Jurgen Klopp. ā€œWe wonā€™t get the pointsā€.ā€™ā€

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Disagree. On field decision was yellow and the ref was right in front of the challenge. Then VAR calls him over and shows him a still image at the point of contact which is highly unusual.

But if it helps zone in on the problem using the incontrovertible evidence of the Diaz goal then fine

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No, that is not fine. The Diaz goal they can simply blame England for that, but the abysmal refereeing of the entire match is on Hooper.

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Clubs in the Premier league voted against the introduction to the semi automatic offside system used at the World cup and CL invented by Hawkeye.

Why some clubs felt the need to not have it in place to reduce the margin for human error is beyond me. Whenever Iā€™ve seen it in a game it works brilliantly and you can see what part and by how much a player is offside.

With that system in place, Diaz goal wouldā€™ve stood.

VAR as it stands isnā€™t technology doing the work like goal line doesā€¦and as long as it requires human intervention, itā€™s fucked. Thereā€™s a reason why goal line works with the help of hawkeye.

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A foot halfway up a shin is dangerous play and a potential red card. So there wont be any redress about that. The red was within the rules of the game.

I didnt know about the precise goings on with the Jones incident and VAR intervening. So you are intimating VAR fkcd Jones and Diaz up? They probably did but we wont get any comeback on Jones because the decision was within the rules.

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Refs are supposed to be shown the replay of the incident in real time. They started off showing the end of the challenge as a still photo. Thatā€™s not what they are supposed to do. That instantly made it look far far worse than it actually was.

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The claim at the time was that next-generation technology would be out in a year, rendering that system obsolete, while being incompatible.

Did they even show anything else? From what I remember at the time, and the replays Iā€™ve seen, they never showed anything but the still.

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They did but after an inexplicably long wait and in slow motion

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I think thats the crux of the cardā€¦Tubby didnā€™t look in real time, thought fuck it Iā€™ll send him off and really shit on LFCā€¦Iā€™m still in the mindset that he knew what he was doing all thruā€™ the gameā€¦if the 2 dickweeds had said stop the game its a goalā€¦he would have saidā€¦nah donā€™t believe uā€¦play onā€¦

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Also before Cody scored his goal he was injured in a bad challenge. Crystal clear endangering a player. If the Jones precedent has been set then that one was a far worse challenge and should have been flagged by VAR for a straight red.

Nothingā€¦.cricketsā€¦

ā€œInconsistentā€ calls between matches is bad enough. ā€œInconsistentā€ calls within a match stinks of more than just incompetence

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Has anyone heard from Tubby Grant yetā€¦cause his take on the whole shit show will be a right fairy taleā€¦

The Jones incident at least had a mitigating excuse of rolling over the ball, though Iā€™m not sure if that affects the decision on whether it should be a red?

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In that case if it was within the rules why was the tackle on Cody that takes him out for 7 weeks deemed not worthy of a red that was not an accidental contact either

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Thereā€™s always an idiot out there isnā€™t there - albeit could be a bot. No acceptableā€¦but get the feeling Gary and his bosses were keep to use something from Sat to deflect from the real dramaā€™s of the day.

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Bullshit. No excuse for racism.

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Just to be clear - I agree - in case my post is taken the other way.

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