A really poor performance again, away from home, probably worse than Luton. There was no leadership on the pitch and we allowed Toulouse to bully us. Would the likes of Souness, Case and McDermott have allowed them to get away with their shithouse tactics? Some of our players really need to toughen up. The fringe players proved that most of them are just not good enough and that’s a concern. The only positive for me from this game was Jota’s goal. I can’t wait for the City game.
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Thing is we ain’t gonna have good players willing to be sit on the bench unless they are paid handsomely…
I think there needs to be review on the defensive tactics so far and the personnel we have at DM
Probably, but have we got any defensive tactics to review? After watching the shambles last night, I doubt it.
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Offensively, we looked shit for the last weekend’s game and this game too.
Much has been lauded on TAA’s passing but his passing so far is not dangerous. His set-pieces has gone to shit even at corners.
I think we should just go back to the basics and do a normal 433 with a full-back that can puts in low crosses from wide which TAA has done pretty well in the past. Him going to the middle strains our CBs and wrecks the shape when he inevitably loses the ball.
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That will be a diaster if we play the likes of Tsimikas, Elliott, Gakpo and Matip.
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I’m fairly certain I’ve read it somewhere that Jürgen said in his pre-match press conference that quite a few players have had it?
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Well it would explain some of the lacklustre display from the last couple of games.
We can moan about the disallowed goal at the finish but in all honesty they could have had four or five goals in the second half. We were an absolute shambles in every department worse even than the Luton game. I don’t know if it’s complacency or arrogance that is the problem. I thought a couple of weeks ago that we had plenty of depth and quality in the squad but after the last two games it proves not to be the case.
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Or Gerrard and Carragher…even Milner
We do miss Robbo’s fight. We don’t have many aggressive players. I think it’s another reason to sign a combative no 6
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I can’t speak to @WooltonRed’s player selection, but I can hand on heart say that with those players you’ve mentioned, we’ve seen their fair share of “allowing them to get away with their shithouse tactics”.
In any case, I don’t think Jürgen agrees with the prevailing sentiment, at least given what he said post-match about how we just didn’t perform right. Not that we’re missing an ingredient, just that the players on the pitch, the whole team, we should have done better.
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On a separate note, I’m not actually too fussed about the performance in a sense, nor the result.
It was not a good performance by any means, but at the very least, we did show some fight, and did not lose our heads. There was quite clearly a game plan, even though we didn’t execute it that well. I don’t think the passing sideways and backwards being criticised is a coincidence since we did that against Luton as well. I think it’s very much part of our tactics in order to create some space, just that the execution of it wasn’t good enough.
I liked that we fought back to at least claim a point, even if it’s just a moral point rather than an actual point. If I were involved in the team in some way, I would 100% be telling Quansah to treasure that moment, even though it officially doesn’t stand. And to learn from it.
Was the result frustrating? Yes. Could we have done better? Certainly much better. But you don’t lose Gravenberch, Jones and Robertson without coming out unscathed. Maybe Robertson wouldn’t have been involved, but you can bet at the very least one of the former 2 would have been, and things might have been different. I think as long as we take the right lessons from this, even the middling results of late would just be a minor blip in the grand scheme of things for us.
Although this is pretty much not the first team, Klopp needs to arrest any mentality lapse considering we have now failed to win away at 2 teams that we need to beat if we are habouring any intentions to get back to our peak years where we won everything.
I did ask at the begining of the game…trotties or flu??? but i don’t think anyone had an idea…
Probably nobody wanted to think about it to be honest 
Whether Liverpool were poor, ill or over confident last night is really secondary to a major issue.
The decision on the equaliser is beyond explanation. Once again the club are shafted by a nonsensical, incorrect call.
But its easier to whine about quality, poor passing, fatigue etc etc, than to open our eyes to the bold fact that we have been shafted.
This continues the narrative of the season. The inexplicable red cards, the Diaz goal vs Spurs etc. Its hard enough to compete with the financial wizardry of the oil clubs without referees and VAR continuing to fuck us over.
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I remember when the best Liverpool Team I have have ever seen, who were on the cusp of winning the clubs first League Title in 30 years, went to a Watford Team on their way to being relegated, and got spanked 3-0. It happens. We fix it. We move on.
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Funny what you remember, but one of my most vivid memories of the great treble winning 83-84 side was getting thrashed 4-0 by a Coventry City side just 1 win above being relegated.
Most memorable about the day was a hat trick by soon to be Utd player, Terry Gibson. But at the back for them that day - Fat Sam Allardyce 
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We’ve been spoiled by the couple of seasons where we almost had to reach perfection to keep up with city. Expecting to win every game and get over 100 points every season. It’s not possible, especially as other teams have improved. It’s normal to have off days
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Always have to laugh at the “we we’re shite so we deserved it” brigade. Like playing badly mitigates against bad calls that cost a result.
Doesn’t matter how shite we were, the least we should expect is the fucking referee to get the major decisions correct.
Wasn’t too bothered last night because we’ll still qualify at a canter, just put it down to a ref totally out of his depth. These sort of things in Europe are few and far between. If it had happened in a PL game that would be a different matter entirely.
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