I’d suggest that is a classic sign of a tricky wicket. On a standard grass top, if you can hang around the runs flow; on something like this you just need to score quickly as you’ll get unplayable deliveries no matter how in you are and waiting is futile.
If you mean t20 and the like, nah. If you are referring to 50 over stuff going back to the 70s then absolutely.
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A half century on debut for Gay, well played. Some luck with edges along the way but the way this pitch is playing that is to be expected.
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They need 200 I’d say as you can bat on this if you are not dumb.
Speaking of being dumb that NZ wicket.
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oofff Conway got saved by an umpire’s call, ball just halfway in line with stumps.
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They’ve got a hell of a lot to do tomorrow.
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But they do have batsmen who are capable. Should be an intriguing day.
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Tomorrow looks fine all day so should be good for a result.
England won, apparently…
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Another nightclub incident, involving Stokes and Atkinson this time, and apparently Stokes is considering resigning as captain.
It’s just laughable at this point really. If he’s banned for the next game it will be Harry Brook facing questions about drinking in the next press conference. Circus show.
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Pathetic really. They deserve all they get. For what? A few beers.
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honestly. what exactly were they celebrating! a win from a low standard pitch?
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Umm, I thought Stokes quit drinking after the brawl a few years ago?
NB. Also, the comment is slightly misleading as it was an incident that involed them and a Academy player from Saracens. I suspect young gobshite probably got mouthy towards them over the Ashes and they defended themselves/the team?
So much for the midnight “curfew” 
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A likely scenario, but why have they put themselves in that position to start with? So many in this team just strike me as being thick.
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They just should not have been out after midnight. Arrogant stupidity and shows exactly how alcohol messes with your judgement. It’s clear Stokes has a drinking issue.
Time to make an example and stop this happening once and for all. At least out of the second test for both. Captaincy? Well maybe it’s time to really make a statement.
It will be easier as Stokes batting has been poor and his body will not get him past next years ashes.
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I mean he still has magic moments in him, especially as a bowler.
But regardless of what happened, he drives the team culture and this is setting a poor poor example.
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But who would the next all rounder be? I think they have missed a trick not playing Ahmed more.
Who else? People have mentioned Vaughn or Flintoff. Not sure who the all rounder for the Lions was.
I am not a fan of spinner all rounder as I think they should bat a way - Giles, Swann.
Please not Curran. His bowling is just above Village.
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Most athletes get high quicker with alcohol.
Stokes clearly has a binge drinking problem.
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