The Cricket Thread

That is not 100% accurate.

You listen to any top class batsman and they will tell you top top speed makes you very uncomfortable as a batsman. The ability to control and manipulate the ball makes you more problematic, but majority of batsman do not like facing raw pace.

There is a reason most batsmen at the time hated facing Shoab Akhtar and Brett Lee compared to other bowlers from that time, and that is down to the extra pace they could both generate.

There’s a reason why players feel uncomfortable playing bumrah and Steyn too.

Not to mention McGrath

Cummins isn’t fast. The effort ball which surprises a batsmen is more important than a ball out of the hand which is faster.

Those two are probably the fastest ever (plus Jeff Thomson and Patrick Patterson)

Brett Lee was also consistently accurate as well. Archer is the best blend of speed and accuracy England have, Wood is fast but often leaks runs and Tounge is a bit of a wildcard who bowled some absolutely awful stuff against India but manages to produce a magic delivery every now and then. Atkinson and Carse rarely bowl consistently at 85+, both are better when they reign the pace in a bit.

Potts is an interesting selection given he’s not featured much at all of late and has never got a consistent run in the team, could be the sort of relentless line and length workhorse who does well in Australia.

Thing about Patterson is that , with all his undoubted pace. There were other bowlers who often got the look in ahead of him. Including one particular Malcom Marshall. Who bowled at that 145-150 areas (same as Steyn and Bumrah ) and still got the wickets at his strike rate.

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This still makes me laugh :rofl:

Was finally tracked down. Sad story for him.

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Later in his career he had developed great control, but early in his careers he was extreamly warward. When he first broke into the NSW sState team he was as bad as Mitchell Johnson

Not that I don’t think Lee and akhtar weren’t lethal. But give me Steyn , Marshall and Bumrah anyday over them.

Just to be another “it’s not that: it’s this” guy.

I want to say it’s the combination of pace and bounce in Aus conditions. Our three pronged pace attack are all giants: 6ft4, 6ft5 and 6ft6, all excellent at their own trade, either relentless accuracy (hazelwood, Cumdog) or ball movement (Starc).

It’s not to say they won’t do well in Aus, but those fast paced English bowlers are all midgets, which makes getting the extra bounce more difficult.

Just you wait until England’s mini midget bowlers come at you in the Ashes with their tiny little arms and legs. They’ll slip the ball under your bats and you won’t even see them until your wickets go tumbling.

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Are they all Jordan Pickford?

“He bowls to the left
He bowls to the riiiight
That Mitchell Johnson
His bowling is shite”

He was good for a while though

Nepal won a T20 series against West Indies. Not close to the full strength Windies team but it is what it is.

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Bumrah. What a player

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/aussies-rocked-as-josh-hazlewood-ruled-out-of-ashes-test/news-story/4da351bbdca58f335160eb478baefe29

So Australia missing Hazlewood and Cummins for the 1st Ashes test in Perth. Looking at the reports, Cummins potentially missing the 2nd test as well as he hasn’t started full bowling yet.

Getting the excuses in early eh? :wink:

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Nope, just pointing out how much sweeter victory will taste when missing multiple key players :face_with_tongue:

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Don’t worry, Wood and Archer will both break down in the first session and it’ll be a level playing field again.

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Oh, I already pointed out that as good as Woods and Archer are, would struggle to see enough games combined through the series.