At this point it’s advantage England.
But it was advantage England 1 down 100 ahead in the 2nd dig in Perth.
But this is good stuff right now. Maybe having Gaz could be the difference?
Don’t see England ahead. Aussies are on for 350+
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82, anyway. I just knew he was going to get a decent score, after being all but gone.
England need to build pressure here, the game is there for them but they have to stop allowing cheap runs with part time spinner. A score around 330 would make for an exciting test as this is a good batting track and England should be able to make 450 of they don’t do Baz ball madness (as the Aussies have with some poor cricket shots)
Pitch isn’t offering that much but I’d still be amazed if England got anywhere near 450 against this bowling attack.
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It’s a flat track. If they can’t do it in the first innings here in a 40 degree day they won’t full stop. Listen to the experts who have scored runs in Adelaide.
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If England score 300+ I’d be amazed
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If they don’t then they should be dropping some of the Baz ball wicket-throwing-away-shot playing players. At Adelaide, you get in and adjust to the bounce (much more like english conditions) and then you capitalise on a v hot day on a day two pitch. If they don’t get a decent lead then they will struggle batting fourth.
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Have you seen this lot adapting to anything? The problem is we have this world where everything has to be black or white, no admittance of change or adapting as that’s a defeat and the other lot will crow and yet it’s the only way to achieve.
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They seem to make it up as they go along. Most of the batsmen really need to take their heads out of their asses or the series is over.
I don’t understand the attitude to the spinners. Wouldn’t Leach have been a decent option on this tour? Instead, they’ve been all in on Bashir yet, when there’s a pitch he might exploit, they abandon him for a lesser bowler who leaks a hundred runs at 5 an over. All to bolster their fragile batting, supposedly.
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I’ve already completely written this tour off.
What’s disappointing this time is that there were elements that could’ve been planned and selections that could’ve been made that would’ve made this a much more competitive series.
I don’t think currently there’s enough
top level talent either batting or bowling to beat this Australia team in a 5 test series. But I think we could’ve taken one maybe two tests if everything was planned properly, enough first class matches were arranged and players were picked based on recent form plus specific requirements for Australian conditions.
The Snicko bullshit is just the diarrhoea icing on a turd cake
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Yet weren’t they supposedly “planning” this for the last three years and more?
The Mike Tyson quote is apposite here
“Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth” or something similar.
Well, they’ve been punched pretty hard in the first two tests and now their brains are well and truly scrambled. They’ve even been talking about adopting a more sensible attitude and batting with circumspection. Yeah, right!
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What plan?!?!
Unless the plan was to pretend to have a plan.
I was shaking my head at Trescothick defending the fact that they didn’t arrange first class matches because that’s not what they do any more.
Well, as the saying goes…fail to prepare? Then prepare to fail.
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Once again you guys have missed the much more important fact that KFC appear to have dropped Ricky Ponting as the Colonel on their field logo. Have the chickens come home to roost? Have KFC put their eggs in another basket? Has Ponting been banging on the wrong drumstick?
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It’s the bowling that’s the problem.
England have one good bowler and Stokes, who is capable of coming up with something occasionally.
That’s not enough to win a test match in Australia. The Australians threw away their wickets mostly in this innings, but they’re still going to get something between 360 and 400.
England will get 250 and we know the rest.
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Yet the most generous interpretation of their batting is that they’ve failed in 3 of their 4 innings so far. Their one score above 300 though was still significantly under par
Exactly. And this England team, if they played intelligently (as Australia did briefly at times in the first 2 tests) has a strong enough batting lineup to have come out of the first 2 tests (at least) with at least parity. ‘Baz ball’ means they are brainlessly failing to adapt to the conditions and treating everything as the last few overs of a t20 match. It’s such a waste.
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But we have more than one good batsman.
The batting has failed due to tactics, not talent.
No amount of tactics tweaking will save the bowling.
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I sent this to my mates in Oz.
They laughed as much as I did.
Do you cater children’s parties? My eldest is 7 in Jan.