Absolute crap. They had just beaten the world champs in a very tight game, of course they celebrated. And of course they had the self belief - narrowly losing to NZ is hardly a shocking result.
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Are you Irish by any chance?
The way they celebrated was for winning a 1/4 final or a semi. Not a group game. Imo.
Never see the Aussies, NZ, SA or dare I say it the auld enemy England celebrate a group game win with a lap of honour.
Have you looked at my bio on here, by any chance?
Itâs objectively plain that this Irish side did not lack self belief. Ask across the spectrum of coaches, players, former players or experts and theyâll laugh at your ignorance.
Thatâs your opinion. Thatâs fine. No need to get shirty.
Farrell said he was âinmensly proudâ. Thatâs the problem in my opinion. The AB, Aussie or SA coach would be getting fired.
Not getting shirty - just calling out your BS. And itâs not merely âmy opinionâ; only someone very ignorant about rugby would say that this Irish team celebrating beating the Boks and then losing to the ABs is due to âa lack of beliefâ.
It actually, literally is just your opinion, however much you shout it out.
Imo doing a lap of honour after winning a group game shows to me a lack of belief that you are actually the number 1 team in the world.
I never said they didnât fight hard against NZ or that they didnât play good rugby against them.
Ireland have never been beyond the quarters, ever in 10 world cups. That is a mentality problem.
NZ and SA have self belief + abilty in spades. So have the Aussies normally with 2 WCâs. Thatâs why both NZ and SA have 3 world cups. England have been to 4 finals winning 1 (if Iâm not mistaken) imo in Englandâs case due to a strong mentality.
Anyway, you wonât agree so no biggie. Appreciate you calling out my BS.
Argentina Vs England final would be amusing simply due to this thread if nothing else.
Is this the competition for the most yellow and red cards? 
I was rooting for Chile, Iâm not very good at this sort of prediction thing (as you might have realised 1-1 what?).
Argentina Vs Chile was great though, Chile scored a try and from the noise I think even the Argentina sopporters were cheering. 
Ahem⌠Patagonia B please.
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I donât think thatâs quite fair in this instance. This incarnation of the Irish side is the best theyâve ever been as far as I can remember. 4 years ago they were a semi final team at best, before that quarter finals was about their ceiling.
This time they just lost a game that they could have won on another day. Thatâs test rugby, that game was that close.
Similarly, France lost, but two different refereeing calls, one of which is a clear error, and they win that.
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Whereâs that guy who was calling for the NH sweep?
Ireland have never been expected to go beyond the quarters before. Pathologizing this teamâs exit because previous lesser versions of this team failed to overachieve is just pop psychology.
It takes me back to the people complaining about klopp celebrating a draw against West Brom.
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Ok. So explain Argentina. Way superior record, but an inferior team.
KO rugby isnât always the most predictable and to form thing. Ask New Zealand in 1999 and 2007. Hell even losing that semi 4 years ago to a much inferior team. Do we now have to explain that NZ are bottlers also?
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They were playing Wales who just finished 5th in 6 Nations.
You really think that Ireland, after winning grand slam, beating NZ twice in their own back yard, beating SA twice in past year, suddenly lost self-belief because previous teams hadnât made it past QF?
We could have won on Friday night if Barrett hadnât held that ball up. France could have beaten SA if decisions went their way. SA could have beaten Ireland in pool stage if they had a kicker. All fine margins
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Well if you think 3 world cups is a team that lacks self belief then go ahead.
I didnât call Ireland bottlers, I said they lack self belief or that little bit of arrogance needed at the very top level.
Theyâve never been past the quarter fnals, ever. Argentina has a better record than Ireland, Scotland and Wales in the world cup. Obviously you need self belief + ability etc.
Just for clarity, Iâm talking all the world cups not just this one.
England football team the epitomy of a lack of self belief, arrogance that you believe you belong at the top table. WHEN IT MATTERS.
Iâll refrain from that thanks because I think itâs a dumb frame work.
Noway do England lack arrogance anywhere, more arrogant than the French!
France havenât won a Rugby World Cup so itâs surely because of that England top the arrogance league!
You started it. Hilarious.
24 games played head to head.
Ireland 15 wins
Argentina 8 wins
1 draw.
Anyway bored with this now. People cherry ppicking tiny bits of the argument. Tiresome.