The Unreliable Rumours Discussion Thread (Part 1)

[Sportbilly1966]

Does nothing for me

[JU97ICE]

@tesh90

The BBC article is suggesting that Saul Niguez is a no go for us as he’s off to Barca… shame if true.

It’s cute that there are still players out there willing to play for free.

[anon59854308]

@redfanman

@Nobluff

Is it purely wage bill, or is it related to debt? So if they reduce the debt by 100m by selling a few player, does that help from a wages perspective?

It’s both. They have a lot of debt. They also have either outstanding payments or payments falling due on transfers they have made that along with salaries that combined total more than their income.

And I have absolutely no sympathy for them.

[rab]

@Neukölln

Pearce saying there was never a bid from M’Gladbach for Origi.

Let’s just accept any way and it’ll be a nice surprise for them when he turns up in the post.

[TheMaestro]

It’s not too difficult to imagine unfortunately. It is highly unlikely that Hendo and Fab will get through the entire season without getting injured and missing several games.

Hendo getting older and off the back of a pretty bad groin injury. Fab in my view needs his minutes managed pretty closely, as he tends to struggle if relied on for too many games.
As much as I want them to stay fit, they seem to pick up an injury or 2 every season.
Thiago will hopefully not be in the same boat and can be ‘Gini like’ with availability.

[Red_Submarine]

Why isn’t there a queue to sign Kabak for £8.5 million?!

[ZinedineBiscan]

@TheMaestro

Thiago will hopefully not be in the same boat and can be ‘Gini like’ with availability.

That seems very unlikely, he’s had injury issues pretty much every season.

Thiago - Injury history

[Klopptimist]

Who for? I just don’t see him being / staying fit for long enough to make an impact for us.

[legalalien]

@rab

Doubt Saul was anything other than tabloid talk or Atletico looking to make a market for him.

He’s just the wrong side of our preferred age bracket with him turning 27 before the year is out. And if his wages are what’s being reported that’d be upwards of £150k a week right off the bat.

Guessing Barca see it as a good way to get a big wage bill off the books, raise some funds and get the midfielder they thought they were getting before Gini opted for PSG.

Still think up and coming and ready to be polished rather than finished product is where we’re shopping.

Up and coming such as Nuehaus? It’s gone a bit quiet on that front. I know he’s supposedly staying at Gladbach, but it’s wise not to believe anything during the transfer window. Maybe an ‘out of the blue’ announcement followed by a lean?

[Walshy07]

Mail now reporting we have ended our interest in Teilemans as £64m is too much but now going for inters barella at the bargain price of £60m and won’t be bringing Kobak back for £8.5m.

Italians never seem to do well at Lfc .

[gazmaninaus]

I’ve been predicting this for the last ten years and it’s never happened. Guess it’s never likely too.

[Dutch]

Fabrizio Romano

[rab]

@legalalien

Up and coming such as Nuehaus? It’s gone a bit quiet on that front. I know he’s supposedly staying at Gladbach, but it’s wise not to believe anything during the transfer window. Maybe an ‘out of the blue’ announcement followed by a lean?

Yeah someone like him rather than teenage options like Camavinga or Gravenbach.

[Walshy07]

Love the comments on the Mail - everyone says - do you just link every player with Man U!

[redfanman]

@Red_Submarine

Why isn’t there a queue to sign Kabak for £8.5 million?!

He probably hasnt been offered to anyone else at that price? I suspect also, he probably isn’t being chased by clubs, so clubs that are interested are happy to wait to see just how low they can get him for towards the end of the window. A lot of clubs are probably trying to move players on before they make a move for him.

Anyways, I thought I read a couple of days ago that Leicester were signing him, has that rumour now been quashed?

[vjcpatriot]

I don’t see Jota as a CF to be honest. He’s a winger. The one I’d like to see move to CF is Salah actually. He loves scoring goals, so just put him in a central position. The pink elephant in the room is that Roberto Firmino’s expiration date looks past due. I’m sure Klopp loves Bobby for his pressing abilities, but we need our striker to score goals in bunches. I’d like to sell Bobby and buy a more natural scoring striker to replace him.

But yes we want to bin off a lot of the people you mentioned. And we need to add 1 more midfielder and 1 more front four attacker.

[redfanman]

@vjcpatriot

He loves scoring goals, so just put him in a central position.

Just because someone loves scoring goals, I don’t think that by itself justifies moving their position on a permanent basis. Many of those goals come about because of his current positioning and movement. Playing him as the CF would probably limit him in that respect. As he gets older there might be an argument for that move to happen but I don’t see it right now.

[gasband]

Its not necessarily true but a high chance why Salah and Mane scores more than Firmino is precisely they play in their positions right now in the system that Klopp sets up for the team and with Firmino playing his role. The system is as important as the players, not less. Granted Firmino could score more and there is no reason why we should not be looking at renewal within the team as that is a matter of time as they grow older.

[Flobs]

Manure are in for any player they can barter for from what I can gather.

[norwegian_wood]

Yes, moving Salah central more permanently would mean some adjustments in terms of other roles in the setup. We see when Jota is in there with Mane and Salah that we don’t get a good rhythm in terms of movement towards vs away from the ball. Firmino’s job is as much about that as it is about pressing. His overall contribution to the team is still at a very high level.