The Unreliable Rumours Discussion Thread (Part 2)

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England would immediately find a way to play a CM pairing of Mount and Phillips

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They did once, it was terrible. Think it was Hungary at home or something. Changed it at HT.

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It just means they need to give it more time.

He definitely needs a sandwich.

Fabinho needs a kebab or two.

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Alisson will be inviting him around on the first free Sunday for a barbecue.

Why would you restrict Bellinghams attacking prowess by playing him as a double pivot?

You have an attacking one and a defensive oneā€¦ Think heā€™d be excellent there, but thatā€™s it with the best, he will be excellent in many positions.

The principle is we get back to pressing high up, counter pressing, condensing spaceā€¦ Heā€™d play the game in their half.

A bit like thisā€¦

Hansi Flick at Bayern Munich

Flickā€™s 4-2-3-1 (below) was particularly effective in Bayernā€™s successful 2019/20 Champions League campaign. They beat Chelsea 7-1 on aggregate and Barcelona 8-2, having also won 7-2 at Tottenham in the group stage. Centre-forward Robert Lewandowski had support from the mobile Thomas MĆ¼ller, who ran beyond the striker, provided extra presence in the box to attack crosses, and rotated with wide players Kingsley Coman, Ivan Perisic and Serge Gnabry, who moved infield towards goal. Thiago controlled the tempo of the teamā€™s passing from his position between the back four and attacking midfield. He was paired either with Leon Goretzka, who provided penetrative runs around MĆ¼ller, or Joshua Kimmich who added a stronger defensive presence in the double pivot. This allowed both full-backs, Benjamin Pavard and Alphonso Davies, to attack simultaneously.

Who would our Thomas MĆ¼ller be?

Gakpo, Elliot, Carvaho? We have a lot of 10sā€¦ We keep playing them as 8s!

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Seeing that picture instantly reminds me of Hodgsonā€™s training sessions and those pieces of ropeā€¦ :rofl:

One is more of a wide forward and the other two have a lot of improving to do before being a #10 in a Jurgen Klopp team.

First thing Klopp did when he took over Liverpool was throwing Coutinho to the (inside) left side.

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Iā€™d hope weā€™d aspire to more than that! I know itā€™s bleak currently :wink:

Well itā€™s a chicken or egg conundrum.

If we miss out on CL then our cheap FSG owners will say - well we canā€™t afford Bellingham now because we donā€™t have CL money.

But its the owners very stinginess that cause us to miss out on CL because we didnā€™t upgrade the midfield in January.

As Craig from Youtube put it welcome to ā€œNextSummerFSGā€

Not spending 130m on one player is being ā€˜cheapā€™ now.

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Donā€™t conflate the two issues.

We donā€™t need to spend 130m to get a midfielder this January to help us qualify for CL.

The owners cheapness is stopping us from getting reinforcements for January. Thus we get TRUCKED by a Brighton squad who is obviously superior and more energetic in midfield while we run on a half empty tank of has-been shells of midfielders.

Klopp is getting sabotaged by FSG not backing him for transfers, I donā€™t see how you can look at it any other way. Itā€™s pretty obvious.

Only spent 65 on Nunez and 35 on Gakpo. Cheap gits.

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Go and do this on Twitter. Donā€™t do it here.

There are a lot of reasons not to buy in January, some I agree with and some I donā€™t, but the inarguable fact is that FSG fronted up Ā£40m this January, and Klopp/Ljinders/The scouts put it on another forward.

The decision not to invest in midfielders over the last few years is a choice, and I doubt very much itā€™s FSGs. Weā€™ve spent 300m on players since we won the European Cup, and 10% of that has gone on midfielders.

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