Was it really all that long ago when £250k pw was considered ‘superstar’ wages ? Fukin 'ell , what’s happened to the game.
He’s not worth £250k a week for me.
I do however see why Klopp would want him, he’s very similar to Gini was at Newcastle, and would follow a similar path i.e. Fully converted to a no.8 box to box midfielder.
Highly doubt he’d be looking at £250k here, with the current deal he’s on (less than £100k). He wants an improvement on what he’s getting and that’s fair enough, he will probably get something in the middle whether he stays at Chelsea or goes. But I just don’t see the need for him, especially this summer when we really need to put every penny we can find in our pockets in 2-3 transfers that really make sense. We don’t have the luxury right now of seeing Mason Mount on the market and just going, oh nice, we’ll have a bit of that and hope he learns to play like a CM. Just… no.
He is a good player who has suffered from Chelsea’s lack of focus, but he is not a player I’d be pushing for if I was in charge of recruitment. However, there is a player in there and so if Klopp and Co (who is the Co?) saw something in him that they thought would be valuable to us I could get on board with it easily enough.
Mount’s a good player, it’s not that I dislike him.
Good enough that every top side in the league who can attract/afford him will naturally have a little thought, if he’s worth going for.
He’s also far from being this only soft/technical/creative and zero effort type of player. He can certainly work hard in a pressing system (but there could be levels in what Klopp wants from a #10) and seems like a normal kid who would be open enough for improving his game.
I’d even go and say that it’s his creativity and end product that probably didn’t develop lately. Not concrete enough. He had some games both for Chelsea and England where he’s mainly playing between the lines and not really dangerous enough offensively. You didn’t see him enough, he didn’t hurt the opposition enough.
So maybe the development into more of a midfielder “should’ve” already happened by now? But some of the games I saw him deeper as a CM weren’t good. He still has time, maybe a fresh start somewhere else is what he needs.
If we go for him, then obviously there must be also good reasons why. But I would rather see us go safer this summer, not try and be too clever and try to turn Mason Mount into something different. Rather go for what we really need. He’d still be a €50m-ish + €150k type of signing. I’m sorry but that is not peanuts for us, especially with the situation we’re in. We can pick more specifically now, rather than using the argument when we signed Ox.
And then if we want a bit of those qualities between the lines in the near future, let’s not forget we have the likes of Jones, Elliott, Carvalho. And that Firmino, if he stays, can obviously play as that #10 behind/alongside a striker. Maybe Gakpo also. Of course, Mason is a better and more proven player than the first 3, but do we really need him?
I think it’s a bit too lazy. English international, last year of contract, good player, normal kid, top club experience, won a few things, international, maybe for some fans the eternal awaiting of Klopp changing to 4-2-3-1 (which still didn’t happen regularly), etc. How do we fit all of that together?
We already have enough question marks behind Mount’s best position and in front of it. Fabinho’s and Hendo’s form, what’s our best attack now with the main 6 guys we have, who plays where and how.
Do we need one or two new proper midfielders? Go for them.
Do we need both to be workhorses? No.
Can we find different qualities in two new players, that there’s enough athleticism, dynamism, but also technique and offensive product? Yes.
Go for such players, this summer is not one to make weird meals. We could go off the course a bit too much with some of our recent signings still being so-so.
Young player with lots of experience in top competitions - Check
Good at receiving the ball in tight spaces - Check
Can play left sided attack - Check
He’s already signed.
Even w/o Bellingham it’s a pretty good squad
So Mount is a good player but don’t buy him basically.
Jellied eels, that’s a weird meal.
Why do I say that name in Matt Berry the comedians voice (Toast of London for a reference point).
Because it’s perfect!
I’ve been mentioning N’Dicka for a little while. If money is plentiful, I would prefer Gvardiol. But assuming the money we do have is going to go into the midfield, N’Dicka would be very good as a Matip replacement.
Thought we had a no dicks rule?
It’s fine, his nickname is Thicka.
Might be dangerous for me to utter his name in the USA.
Makes me nostalgic for the time my home town Indiana Pacers considered signing Italian basketball star Gregor Fucka
That’s a jersey that would have sold well.
Martin Tyler…
Followed through to the original link:
(via Google Translate)
Liverpool is working on planning its squad for next season with the aim of once again being one of the best teams in the Premier League Jürgen Klopp intends to make a major renewal with the incorporation of high-level players and with the departure of big names in the club’s recent history.
The German coach announced that he wants important changes for next season, where they could not play in the UEFA Champions League and would force them to have to adjust with several starts. And one of the main candidates to leave Anfield Road in the summer is Mohamed Salah.
Suggests PSG would pay 80 million for him. No sources at all. Whilst I wouldn’t rule out Mo leaving I think the article is just wild speculation.