The Unreliable Transfer Rumours Discussion Thread (Part 5)

My guess is Mbaye has come through and his parents have seen him as a cash cow for the family. As a kid they have ‘looked after’ his best interests, likely with themselves in mind too, but without any expertise they have caused some ripples chasing the dough.

And now, as he is only 18, it looks like some order is being restored. He has signed with Mendes, who won’t put up with all that crap. He will surely tell his parents that the money will all be there as his career blossoms, but first and foremost his career has to blossom and they can’t keep acting in a way that damages relations with clubs.

After a bumpy start presumably the parents are on board, as their son is now with Mendes, who has a great relationship with numerous clubs, including LFC. He was Diogo Jota’s agent don’t forget.

So the story arc reads like promising kid starts to come through, snapped up by oil club, parents try to fill their boots, cause some ripples, oil club don’t need that and he’s down their pecking order too, super agent takes him on, order ensues, and now a proper move for the good of his career is on the cards, with the parents hopefully taking a supportive, but less active role.

Here’s hoping!

Barcola and Ngumoha for the left; Mbaye and Munoz for the right; lots of versatility in the group, bring it on. I hope it all gets sorted asap.

And at least one defender. That is urgent.

Then the midfield might come into focus, depending on outgoing/s.

PS - If we sign both Barcola and Mbaye it might help with the fees too. In other words, PSG can claim a slightly higher fee was achieved for Barcola, and they pushed us all the way. They can also claim they got rid of a kid with disruptive parents, so for them it’s all good business.

For us we sign the both players for a combined fee we can live with, and the younger of the two is now with an agent who will steer him straight.

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I think this could be a good point, looking at the valuation of a young and established player like Barcola - and also less established ones like Diomande and Rayan.

If Liverpool can get the fee for Barcola down to what they paid for Wirtz, maybe a little more, I think it makes sense based on how the market is. That would be fair enough for me.

But then if they want a 4th winger, maybe it becomes a choice between a player like Mbaye with great potential - basically another Ngumoah - or players like Abde, Nusa, Minteh etc. who are further ahead and cost more, but maybe not necessarily that much better than Mbaye here and now..?

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Just watch the video or the transcription, it’s a much more sad state of affair.

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https://x.com/BenBocsak/status/2084958873123700788

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I think we should wait and see; the money-hungry guys and their parents usually end up at Chelsea, don’t they? So, if he decides to choose us and the Iraola project instead, that’s a positive sign.

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https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/2084965308209455192

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Yeah could be argued Barcola is the only very high quality player available. Even Diomande has only really had one good season and not in the CL or arguably World Cup. So if the fee drops a little, Barcola might be worth it.

It is crazy though. That kind of money. Anderson going for 130 mil. I can´t get my head around it. Good player but that money is obscene.

On your last para, I suppose with those three players you mention, we at least could expect a good output next year. With Mbaye being so young, it really could go either way. It is a tricky situation though. Not many clear and well priced options it seems.

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It looks and sounds like his parents are going to kill his career stone dead because of all the dollar signs in their eyes. Presumably Mendes has warned his parents before taking him on.

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That would be the first time Mendes has ever responded that way to money grabbers.

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I think Liverpool should report them to the PL as surely tapping a player before they get permission to talk to him is not allowed?

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That rule doesnt seem to exist anymore.

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Well unless the club are encouraging it and want to get rid?

I think they probably realised that every club does it, in fairness.

Especially as you kind of need to find out if the guy is interested, as well as his mentality, before going to all the time and effort getting bids accepted.

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he’ll end up at Man Utd…

and we would never tap up a player…

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Cough Izak Cough

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It does, but seeing as literally everyone does it I think everyone has unofficially agreed not to dob anyone in to prevent mutually assured destruction.

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Noise about Konsa. Ticked a lot of boxes. I thought we were prepared with Allison or Mma as CB :see_no_evil_monkey:

That’s an interesting one given other England caliber CBs in Tomori and Challobah are/were seemingly available for much cheaper. I get Konsa is considered better, but with Villa seemingly holding out for a high valuation, enough to seemingly scare away Arsenal, it’d be an interesting statement of how much more highly he is rated than those guys if we go forward with that. And Im honestly not sure I see it.

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https://x.com/BenBocsak/status/2085034302111125682

I thought I’d just leave this here, you know, just in case…

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